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JoeTheBro said:
It's a problem because the Wii died. 4 years ago it was hip and popular but today it's seen as a dead console for babies. By simply having Wii in Wii U's name a lot of the "HD bros" are turned off. On top of that most people thinking it's an add on also think "my kid/I moved on from the Wii along time ago. I'm going to waste more money on it." These people will not even get as far as seeing a price since they aren't interested in Wii. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be interested in a new $300 console.

Perhaps. At the same time, I ask whether someone who has "moved on from the Wii" would consider the sequel that interesting. Some might, but I don't see it as sort of a broad reaction.

zorg1000 said:
I think it has more to do with people just fail to realize it exists, I havent seen a single ad on tv since december and many people I know have no clue what im talking about when I bring it up

Yeah, I haven't see anything on the TV. Even online, the only press most people see is bad press. It could definitely use some marketing.

ghost_of_fazz said:
Actually it is part of the problem: During the lifespan of the Wii, consumers were attacked with lots of "Wii Something" stuff, like Wii Fit, Wii Music, Wii Sports, Wii Motion Plus, Wii Play, Wii Party, some of them with their mandatory accessory... then you release "Wii U", that looks like a standard Wii with a new controller. The consumer wonders why they don't sell the controller standalone (I've seen some actual cases of people thinking this), and, therefore, think the controller is stupidly expensive considering how cheap the Wii is right now.

That's...actually an interesting point. I hadn't thought of it quite that way.

At the same time, though, the box has never been the big thing with the Wii. The controller was the real appeal of the whole deal, and if the only point of confusion is what box the controller comes with, I question for how many people it would really make a difference.



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I think the name causes a bit of confusion for some people, but imo it's not nearly as big of a problem as some make it out to be.

The problem is it has no games.



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Yea I think that if more games were to come out, then more people will buy it. I mean the sales increased even more just for Monster Hunter and Lego, so imagine how much they will increase if something like a new 3d mario, or a new Zelda came out. I think what helped the Wii right out of the gate was that it also had a new Zelda at launch. The price point for the Wii U is fine in my opinion. I just hope that Nintendo continues to try and get more Japanese support, because if they make the Wii U the only place to constantly get Japanese games, then I can see them doing really well, both in Japan and in NA.



 

You're title and reasoning doesn't match. The reason people think it is an accessory is because of the name and the look. Even those interested in getting it will find out it is more expensive and not what they originally wanted to buy so not every one of them will want the actual device due to price or not knowing the deal of buying a next gen console. Those who think it is an accessory see it as optional and don't realize their system is not being supported any longer and moving into the next generation or don't care.

How wouldn't this be a problem? Sure there are other issues, but this is still one of them. The casual market is not a very informed consumer base and Nintendo has not made it easy for them to know what their product is. If they called it the Super Wii or the Wii 2 thing would have been more apparent. Now they just need marketing, like they did with the 3DS saying it wasn't a DS. They could easily start marketing the Wii U as "The New Wii" and the public would understand easily as that has been effective with Apple, even though their use of a numbering system works just fine so did "The New iPad"



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Chark said:

You're title and reasoning doesn't match. The reason people think it is an accessory is because of the name and the look. Even those interested in getting it will find out it is more expensive and not what they originally wanted to buy so not every one of them will want the actual device due to price or not knowing the deal of buying a next gen console. Those who think it is an accessory see it as optional and don't realize their system is not being supported any longer and moving into the next generation or don't care.

How wouldn't this be a problem? Sure there are other issues, but this is still one of them. The casual market is not a very informed consumer base and Nintendo has not made it easy for them to know what their product is. If they called it the Super Wii or the Wii 2 thing would have been more apparent. Now they just need marketing, like they did with the 3DS saying it wasn't a DS. They could easily start marketing the Wii U as "The New Wii" and the public would understand easily as that has been effective with Apple, even though their use of a numbering system works just fine so did "The New iPad"

You're not wrong, but I made sure to qualify my reasoning with "passing knowledge with Wii accessories and a working brain. " Afterall, the kind of person who knows nothing about Wii accessories is probably not the kind of Wii owner who is going to run out and buy a Wii U regardless. And only a very uninformed consumer (in general, not just with regards to video games) would think that a $100 console would have a $350 accessory.

The casual market is not well-informed, but it isn't dumb either. The kind of people who might be confused by this are the kind of people who are unlikely to buy the console in the first place.



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Mythmaker1 said:
JoeTheBro said:
It's a problem because the Wii died. 4 years ago it was hip and popular but today it's seen as a dead console for babies. By simply having Wii in Wii U's name a lot of the "HD bros" are turned off. On top of that most people thinking it's an add on also think "my kid/I moved on from the Wii along time ago. I'm going to waste more money on it." These people will not even get as far as seeing a price since they aren't interested in Wii. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be interested in a new $300 console.

Perhaps. At the same time, I ask whether someone who has "moved on from the Wii" would consider the sequel that interesting. Some might, but I don't see it as sort of a broad reaction.


Um no. We moved on from the wii because motion control sucked and Nintendo stopped making games for it a few years ago. How the heck would that translate to not finding the next gen system interesting?



JoeTheBro said:

Mythmaker1 said:

Perhaps. At the same time, I ask whether someone who has "moved on from the Wii" would consider the sequel that interesting. Some might, but I don't see it as sort of a broad reaction.


Um no. We moved on from the wii because motion control sucked and Nintendo stopped making games for it a few years ago. How the heck would that translate to not finding the next gen system interesting?


Do you think that is a broad reaction? That the majority of the people who bought the Wii thought motion controls sucked and played the console solely for Nintendo exclusives?

You, and others like you, would probably be interested, but how many people savvy enough with video games to be interested in a next-gen system do you think would be misinformed in such a way?



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sethnintendo said:
Problem is they haven't released the next Smash and Mario Kart for it yet.

Because those titles worked wonders for the Gamecube......

While its true that Wii U needs games, it needs new IP. Another Mario or another Smash Bros isn't going to be the killer app people are hoping for. The Gamecube is proof of that. It also needs a price cut but that didn't work that well for Gamecube either. But considering the year headstart Nintendo has, it could make a difference.



What? The biggest problem for Wii U is the NAME



VGKing said:
sethnintendo said:
Problem is they haven't released the next Smash and Mario Kart for it yet.

Because those titles worked wonders for the Gamecube......

While its true that Wii U needs games, it needs new IP. Another Mario or another Smash Bros isn't going to be the killer app people are hoping for. The Gamecube is proof of that. It also needs a price cut but that didn't work that well for Gamecube either. But considering the year headstart Nintendo has, it could make a difference.


In fairness, the Gamecube came out more than 11 years ago.  A lot can, and has, changed since then. 



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