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Hi 5 to the OP for mentioning some of the best cartoons of all time from back in the day!

I can tell you what happened - Power Rangers. Live action kids shows started appearing and were horrible yet successful. It takes less time to film actors than to have to draw thousands of frames for a 20 minute show. Producers took the easy way out. Power Rangers would lead to things like Teletubbies and other brain damaging live action shows. This was a time period where older cartoon fans made a big switch to Anime, a la Pokemon, Dragonball Z and the like.

There were some cool, lesser known cartoons in the 80s too, like Dragon's Lair (based off an arcade game!) and Gummi bears (came before Duck Tales and Rescue Rangers)



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Im just glad u mentioned Beast Wars, still my 2nd favorite show of all, also Adventure Time and Regular Show take up the majority of my tv time these days



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Heres room for though. I know nearly every cartoon you mentioned in the first paragraph. I never heard of as single cartoon that you have mentioned in the 2nd to last paragraph. You do the maths.

I come from England.



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Honestly, I couldn't disagree more.....Here's why....I'll try to keep this short and sweet.


Back when animation came out, animators/cartoonists had to actually draw the animated short frame by frame. Just look back at the clips from the DSs flipnote studio app. While those are nothing compared the early cartoons of the 20s and onward, the principle is still there, You have to draw the cartoon frame by frame. These early animators had to draw tens of thousands of frames at 24fps for a short subject that only lasted 7-10 minutes long.

I remember in an interview the famous Mel Blanc was in once (the Letterman show), he said that full animation was (and still is) expensive. He said cartoons made this way at the time cost 50k. It was 1982 when he was interviewd and at the time it cost half a million. Now just imagine how much it costs now to make a cartoon at full animation. If I remember correctly it cost GONZO, (anime company) a million dollars per episode for Afro Samurai. That's insane.

So what I'm trying say is that because animation has gotten very expensive, (thanks to things like inflation) animators have went from full animation, to limited animation, to CGI and the dreadful adobe flash. Now I'm not hating on adobe or CGI but these new animators have relied on these two "too" much. In my honest opinion, these two have take away the creativity from people since cartoons made with adobe look like cardboard cutouts on a 2D plane with no real movements.

Thats my take on why cartoons suck now a days.



badgenome said:

Fuck no. Cartoons today are so lame that some supposedly grown men have resorted to watching ones based on a line of toy horses for little girls. It's enough to make me wish for a comet to wipe us all out.

even if you refuse to acknowledge Fim's legitimacy, we also have Adventure Time, Regular Show, and Gravity Falls.



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arcane_chaos said:
after CN got rid of Toonami from every weekday to every saturday to non-exixtent...I lost all faith in the world :( (and don't give that Adult Swim brought it back..it's just a cover for what was their already anime saturday.

stiil their is a good dosage for animated content, what I watch is:
Adventure Time
Regular Show
Avatar: The Last Aire Bender(still watch the repeats)
Legend of Korra(when is that show coming back!?)
Family Guy/American Dad/ Clevland show(Seth McFarlene mush be rolling in dough)
Bob's Burger
South Park
Toonami(desp; ite my mini-rant I still do watch it)
Young Justice: Invasion

show's I miss:
Invader Zim
Kappa Mikey
Teen Titans
MEGAS XLR(HOW DARE THEY END THE SHOW ON A CLIFFHANGER!!!!)

There was no cliffhanger. It was just Coop driving off with an alternate-universe Megas, a whole new (old) mecha to check out...



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spurgeonryan said:
amp316 said:
Nope. Sorry. Cartoons now are pretty lousy on the whole.

This is why I still watch old Tom and Jerry reruns.

Well I watch those as well, but for about ten years I could not stand to watch cartoons with kids. Now I do not mind if they have Johnny Test on or Adventure time or a dozen other shows.

 

@ Serious

I feel sorry for other countries. America has 1,000's of shows on basic cable. You guys do not even understand all of the possibilities that we have. England is just the start though. You guys have much better selection than other countries. Just think how mind boggling it would be if you were Icelandic or even from Isreal.

 

I guess you have to have kids to notice, and not be some 40 year old guy who frequent Taverns more than watch TV. I have noticed because regular, lame cartoons turn me off and I just make the kids watch Man Vs. Food or old Simpsons. But no days, I do not have a problem watching cartoons for hours with them. I also do not worry about wasting money on some lame Kids movie at the theaters because they are all mostly pretty good, or made so that Adults do not vomit when leaving them and thinking about the 60 dollars they wasted.

I don't frequent taverns more than I watch TV .  



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I competely disagree with you cartoons in the 90s to the early 20s where the boom. Sure there are some good ones now here and their, but not as diverse or many as before.



 

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mysticwolf said:

15 to 20 year drought???!!! In that time period you are including Invader Zim, Spongebob, Ed Edd and Eddy, Pokemon (at least the fist couple seasons), Yugio, Rugrats, Tom and Jerry, WIld Thornberries, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Angry Beavers, Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, Johnny Bravo, Looney Toons, Jimmy Neutron, Fairly Odd Parents, Hey Arnold, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, Arthur, Franklin the Turtle, Catdog, Recess, Kim Possible, Rocket Power, Rocko's Modern Life, Pinky and the Brain, Animaniacs, and Samurai Jack just to name a few. Those aren't even including the more popular shows that I don't watch such as the Simpsons, Family Guy, Futurama, stuff like that.

You call that a DROUGHT???!!! The last 20 years have shown us some of the best cartoons ever!


I included fairly odd Parents and a few others. It was not a total loss, but I just feel that I am more willing to watch cartoons with my kids now, instead of making them go in the kitched and watch them. Pinky and the Brain and Animaniacs were more toward the end of the cartoon dynasty of my childhood. simpsons has been around since the late 80's I believe, but have not been as good since season ...10? I say 15 years mainly, because in my high school years is when I noticed the change. I still had younger siblings so cartoons were still in the house, they were just not as good. Ed, Edd, and Eddy were the downfall. That is when I started to dislike cartoons. Fanklin the turtle? Recess, Catdog, Rocket Power, Rocko, Samuai, imaginery friends, etc would not last in todays age. They are too plain and ordinairy. They only last now because they were what you had to watch as a kid because there were no other choices. So you grew up with them. does not mean they were great.

You Crazy

And I seriously hope your not talking about Samuai jack.



 

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I think this is a very subjective topic. I grew up during the late 90's and early 2000's so I feel as if I had the best generation of cartoons some might agree and then some might disagree. I think it all depends on which generation you grew up in.