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Kaizar on 01 April 2013
Soundwave said:
Kaizar said:
Captain_Tom said:

 

To be honest I expect the 3DS and vita to sell about one third to half their predecessors, and then for this to be the last (Good) habdheld generation.

So that means:

3DS: 50 - 75 million

Vita: 25 - 40 million

 


 3DS is selling more then the DS for crying out loud, and the DS is like near 150 million, so the 3DS will easily get life time sales of at least 175 million.


You're living in fantasy land if you think that. 

Even Iwata has stated in recent financial statements, they're not happy with 3DS sales in the West. It used to be that DS sales in Japan were big, but the US and European sales would be 2-3x higher (which is normal as this is proportionate to overall population). But nowadays the 3DS in Japan sells more than North America and Europe combined. 

Monster drop off. The 3DS is selling more like the PSP in the West than the DS, which took off like a rocket after DS Lite + NSMB. 


That was before March 30th sales.



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Soundwave on 01 April 2013
Kaizar said:
Soundwave said:
Kaizar said:
Captain_Tom said:

 

To be honest I expect the 3DS and vita to sell about one third to half their predecessors, and then for this to be the last (Good) habdheld generation.

So that means:

3DS: 50 - 75 million

Vita: 25 - 40 million

 


 3DS is selling more then the DS for crying out loud, and the DS is like near 150 million, so the 3DS will easily get life time sales of at least 175 million.


You're living in fantasy land if you think that. 

Even Iwata has stated in recent financial statements, they're not happy with 3DS sales in the West. It used to be that DS sales in Japan were big, but the US and European sales would be 2-3x higher (which is normal as this is proportionate to overall population). But nowadays the 3DS in Japan sells more than North America and Europe combined. 

Monster drop off. The 3DS is selling more like the PSP in the West than the DS, which took off like a rocket after DS Lite + NSMB. 


That was before March 30th sales.

3DS is selling meh in North America and Europe overall. March 30th doesn't change that. 

3DS isn't going to sniff the DS. 

Smartphones and tablets have killed the Nintendogs/Brain Training side of things and there's only so many kids that even still want a handheld. Adults? Outside of a tiny group of vocal adults on gaming message boards in reality that's a no-go. 



ethomaz on 01 April 2013

Vita: 70m
Wii U: 45m



Scisca on 01 April 2013
Kaizar said:
tbone51 said:
Kaizar said:
Captain_Tom said:

 

To be honest I expect the 3DS and vita to sell about one third to half their predecessors, and then for this to be the last (Good) habdheld generation.

So that means:

3DS: 50 - 75 million

Vita: 25 - 40 million

 


 3DS is selling more then the DS for crying out loud, and the DS is like near 150 million, so the 3DS will easily get life time sales of at least 175 million.



noooooooo, dont think that way! 3DS will get at least 80mil to 120mil max!


Nintendo has announced that 700 games have already been released on the 3DS.

And there's this updated List:

htto://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_3DS_games

I think I will get Sherlock Holmes and the Mystery of the Frozen City (also 3DS exclusive)

 

And Nintendo said that they are going to Localize a ton of 3rd Party 3DS Japanese exclusives.

And it's 3D.

And the reason why anyone hates 3D is because they have to wear glasses, which the 3DS takes care of this problem.

And you can get full 3D movies to watch on the go both physical & digital copies, which stereoscopic movies have been around since 1930's.

And Hulu Plus is getting 3D movies, and HoutTube already has 3D videos.

And there are NO 3D smartphones (if there was then they are discontinued)

 

Just look at the PSP vs. Wii and also PSP vs. DS.

Sony can't sale handhelds is all.

I see the 3DS selling more then the DS. And I see the PS Vita selling less then the PSP. It's just the same as the last gen, except more higher volume of the same kind of sales.

Yeah, not gonna happen. DS had big sales partially because you could just buy an Acekart and play every single game for free. 3DS is not cracked, so unless it becomes hacked, it's not even going to get close.

There are 3D smartphones, but they aren't popular, caues you know... nobody cares about 3D! Even without glasses. And if you think somebody is going to buy 3DS to watch 3D movies then you're crazy :D

The sales of PSP show that Sony can't handle handhelds? Dude, PSP was a huge success. DS was bigger, but that doesn't change the fact it's a hit.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

Immortal on 01 April 2013

Vita - 160m
Basically around PS2 levels. PS2 did well after PS1 sold 100m and, even though PSP didn't quite manage that, Vita has lots of developer support and really good hardware so it should manage.
WiiU - 35m
A return to N64 type sales. The casual market is gone and Nintendo first party ain't much without it.



 

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Soundwave on 01 April 2013
Immortal said:
Vita - 160m
Basically around PS2 levels. PS2 did well after PS1 sold 100m and, even though PSP didn't quite manage that, Vita has lots of developer support and really good hardware so it should manage.

This will happen. 

Right after Spring Breakers overtakes Avatar, Avengers, and Titanic as the biggest box office hit in movie history. 



RazorDragon on 01 April 2013
Scisca said:

Yeah, not gonna happen. DS had big sales partially because you could just buy an Acekart and play every single game for free. 3DS is not cracked, so unless it becomes hacked, it's not even going to get close.

There are 3D smartphones, but they aren't popular, caues you know... nobody cares about 3D! Even without glasses. And if you think somebody is going to buy 3DS to watch 3D movies then you're crazy :D

The sales of PSP show that Sony can't handle handhelds? Dude, PSP was a huge success. DS was bigger, but that doesn't change the fact it's a hit.


DS was one of the systems that sold the biggest number of software last gen, even with R4 and Acekard, so I guess your point doesn't apply here. Piracy probably didn't influenced a lot of people when they thought about buying the handheld, seeing as software sales on the DS were very high. PSP, though, was mostly a failure for third-parties, since few games on it sold well thanks to piracy.



Scisca on 01 April 2013
RazorDragon said:
Scisca said:

Yeah, not gonna happen. DS had big sales partially because you could just buy an Acekart and play every single game for free. 3DS is not cracked, so unless it becomes hacked, it's not even going to get close.

There are 3D smartphones, but they aren't popular, caues you know... nobody cares about 3D! Even without glasses. And if you think somebody is going to buy 3DS to watch 3D movies then you're crazy :D

The sales of PSP show that Sony can't handle handhelds? Dude, PSP was a huge success. DS was bigger, but that doesn't change the fact it's a hit.


DS was one of the systems that sold the biggest number of software last gen, even with R4 and Acekard, so I guess your point doesn't apply here. Piracy probably didn't influenced a lot of people when they thought about buying the handheld, seeing as software sales on the DS were very high. PSP, though, was mostly a failure for third-parties, since few games on it sold well thanks to piracy.

The sales were big, cause the number of hardware sold was incredible. Still, I don't know a single DS owner who bought it to buy original games. Not that I know many of them, but those that I do know haven't even got a single original kart. But you're right that PSP was hit much harder than DS, maybe it's cause DS games were more kid-friendly and kids didn't care/know about/understand R4 or Acekart? They just got their parents to buy them the Pokemon game and that was it, while PSP was more targeted at core gamers, who are more capable of and interested in modding a console, since they knew what extra features they could unlock in a PSP by doing this. That could also be the reason why GTA: Chinatown Wars sold so poorly on DS - the target knew how to get it for free. It's just a guess though.

I just pray Vita never gets hacked. That would kill it in a single day. 3DS would survive just like DS did.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

Kaizar on 01 April 2013
Soundwave said:
Kaizar said:
Soundwave said:
Kaizar said:
Captain_Tom said:

 

To be honest I expect the 3DS and vita to sell about one third to half their predecessors, and then for this to be the last (Good) habdheld generation.

So that means:

3DS: 50 - 75 million

Vita: 25 - 40 million

 


 3DS is selling more then the DS for crying out loud, and the DS is like near 150 million, so the 3DS will easily get life time sales of at least 175 million.


You're living in fantasy land if you think that. 

Even Iwata has stated in recent financial statements, they're not happy with 3DS sales in the West. It used to be that DS sales in Japan were big, but the US and European sales would be 2-3x higher (which is normal as this is proportionate to overall population). But nowadays the 3DS in Japan sells more than North America and Europe combined. 

Monster drop off. The 3DS is selling more like the PSP in the West than the DS, which took off like a rocket after DS Lite + NSMB. 


That was before March 30th sales.

3DS is selling meh in North America and Europe overall. March 30th doesn't change that. 

3DS isn't going to sniff the DS. 

Smartphones and tablets have killed the Nintendogs/Brain Training side of things and there's only so many kids that even still want a handheld. Adults? Outside of a tiny group of vocal adults on gaming message boards in reality that's a no-go. 


The 3DS has sold 10 million in America while the DS at this point had only sold like 8 million in America.

The 3DS had skyrocketing sales in 2/9/2013.

Plus at this point of life spam the DS had already had Pokémon Diamond & Pearl, while the 3DS won't get animal crossing until June & Pokémon X & Y not until October. And there's Smash Bros. on the go.

 

FYI here's a list of 3DS games:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_3DS_games



Kaizar on 01 April 2013
Scisca said:
Kaizar said:
tbone51 said:
Kaizar said:
Captain_Tom said:

 

To be honest I expect the 3DS and vita to sell about one third to half their predecessors, and then for this to be the last (Good) habdheld generation.

So that means:

3DS: 50 - 75 million

Vita: 25 - 40 million

 


 3DS is selling more then the DS for crying out loud, and the DS is like near 150 million, so the 3DS will easily get life time sales of at least 175 million.



noooooooo, dont think that way! 3DS will get at least 80mil to 120mil max!


Nintendo has announced that 700 games have already been released on the 3DS.

And there's this updated List:

htto://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_3DS_games

I think I will get Sherlock Holmes and the Mystery of the Frozen City (also 3DS exclusive)

 

And Nintendo said that they are going to Localize a ton of 3rd Party 3DS Japanese exclusives.

And it's 3D.

And the reason why anyone hates 3D is because they have to wear glasses, which the 3DS takes care of this problem.

And you can get full 3D movies to watch on the go both physical & digital copies, which stereoscopic movies have been around since 1930's.

And Hulu Plus is getting 3D movies, and HoutTube already has 3D videos.

And there are NO 3D smartphones (if there was then they are discontinued)

 

Just look at the PSP vs. Wii and also PSP vs. DS.

Sony can't sale handhelds is all.

I see the 3DS selling more then the DS. And I see the PS Vita selling less then the PSP. It's just the same as the last gen, except more higher volume of the same kind of sales.

Yeah, not gonna happen. DS had big sales partially because you could just buy an Acekart and play every single game for free. 3DS is not cracked, so unless it becomes hacked, it's not even going to get close.

There are 3D smartphones, but they aren't popular, caues you know... nobody cares about 3D! Even without glasses. And if you think somebody is going to buy 3DS to watch 3D movies then you're crazy :D

The sales of PSP show that Sony can't handle handhelds? Dude, PSP was a huge success. DS was bigger, but that doesn't change the fact it's a hit.


3D smartphones are DISCONTINUED, and it doesn't have any games nor Netflix 3D streaming, but there's a trick to stream Netflix 2D content on them.

If people want 3D movies on the go, then they need to buy a 3DS or 3DS XL which has a way bigger screen then discontinue 3D smartphones.

The DS only manage to sale 20 to 25 million at this point, while the 3DS has sold 30 million (8 million DS in America VS. 10 million 3DS in America at this point)

And every single movie in theaters from May 3rd til the next 3 years is in 3D (week by week).

And 3D TVs have sold more then HD TVs during same point in life spam because you know, HD is not that popular according to sales of TVs and Movies.