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Soundwave said:
Will wait to see NPD numbers. VGChartz is undertracking like crazy lately.


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While percentage-wise this is a nice boost in sheer number of consoles sold, it's still... well.... lousy.

And this is launch week for Monster Hunter which has a small but very dedicated base and Lego City which will appeal broadly. You'd expect some increase at least from MH. The question is does it sustain or just drop back to the pathetic sales WiiU had before?

I don't see anyone claim software won't sell some hardware. They say Nintendo franchises (Mario, Zelda, etc) can't lift it over GC levels (that is poor sales levels). That's a fair assessment, although you are free to disagree with it and I've seen some valid points against that argument but it remains to be seen. This week's slight bump doesn't do anything to disprove those arguments as WiiU's sales are still poor by any standard you want to measure it with.

What WiiU needs is another Wii Sports/Wii Fit/Brain Age/Nintendogs type hit to bring in more than the Nintendo core. That could happen. It's possible. But currently it seems unlikely as there is nothing announced that has a shot of being a hit of that caliber. Maybe in 2014....



 

Somini said:
Nem said:
Somini said:
Wii U saved?


Can we stop this? Why is everyone so impatient? Its not saved as it wasnt doomed in the first place.

Consoles are products that are planned for several years in the market. The sales of the first 4 months are only a minimal part of the products performace over its lifespan. We cant call it a failure or a sucess until its been in the market for at least 2 years.

Its about the same as the Vita. These products are still pricy. When the price goes down and quality software is aplenty, even if only from 1st parties, the devices will sell alot more. Thats how products are. They dont sell alot when they release at high price, but they eventually become cash cows when the price of the technology and the device drop.

Whats the more impressive is Sony fanboys saying the Wii U is doomed. Seriously... how did things go with the PS3? Epic short memory.

Your comment is really unrespectful!


I dont see how, but apologies if it is. I went on a rant that wasnt directed at you particularly. All i did was ask you not to overeact and decide if something is dead or not so soon. It was sound advice i thought. :)



Nem said:
Somini said:
Wii U saved?

 

Whats the more impressive is Sony fanboys saying the Wii U is doomed. Seriously... how did things go with the PS3? Epic short memory.


The difference is the PS3 was a power house but too expensive and no one outside the inner circle of Sony did know how to develop for it.At the same time Microsoft was with a comparable console that aimed for the same gaming community already 1 year out and the complete oposite in terms of "developer friendly".
But 3rd Party was eager to work on the PS3 and especially after Sony did put out new SDKs and lowered the price with the PS3 Slim everyone was happy.

On the other side you have right now EPIC with the Unreal Engine 4 aka the Engine that will be used the MOST again in this Gen saying "Lol only for NextGen but you have UE3 and hope someone is nice enough to port the games"
Same goes for Frostbite 3 Engine aka the Engine that is probably 2nd behind the UE4 in terms of games it will be used for.
The console is already missing out on the 2 most used Engines...
Call of Duty didn't sell on the WiiU so Activision will probably won't waste much on it either.

Don't compare the WiiU situation to the situation the PS3 was in.
Nintendo can lower the console price to 5$ but the games won't come cause the Engines won't run on it.With some games right now of course its different cause they are transition games for Current and NextGen but you can see what the general opinion is when someone talks about "Only NextGen Games".
The boosts it will get with such small games like Lego are comparable to the boosts Microsoft got through J-RPGs in Japan.Didn't help much either over the long run.
If you buy a Nintendo Console you do it these days for the Nintendo IPs and a handful of others and thats it.



HaloFailo said:
Nem said:
Somini said:
Wii U saved?

 

Whats the more impressive is Sony fanboys saying the Wii U is doomed. Seriously... how did things go with the PS3? Epic short memory.


The difference is the PS3 was a power house but too expensive and no one outside the inner circle of Sony did know how to develop for it.At the same time Microsoft was with a comparable console that aimed for the same gaming community already 1 year out and the complete oposite in terms of "developer friendly".
But 3rd Party was eager to work on the PS3 and especially after Sony did put out new SDKs and lowered the price with the PS3 Slim everyone was happy.

On the other side you have right now EPIC with the Unreal Engine 4 aka the Engine that will be used the MOST again in this Gen saying "Lol only for NextGen but you have UE3 and hope someone is nice enough to port the games"
Same goes for Frostbite 3 Engine aka the Engine that is probably 2nd behind the UE4 in terms of games it will be used for.
The console is already missing out on the 2 most used Engines...
Call of Duty didn't sell on the WiiU so Activision will probably won't waste much on it either.

Don't compare the WiiU situation to the situation the PS3 was in.
Nintendo can lower the console price to 5$ but the games won't come cause the Engines won't run on it.
The boosts it will get with such small games like Lego are comparable to the boosts Microsoft got through J-RPGs in Japan.Didn't help much either over the long run.
If you buy a Nintendo Console you do it these days for the Nintendo IPs and a handful of others and thats it.

You're forgetting that Nintendo can sell consoles on the merits of the games it makes. No disrespect to Sony's 1st party franchises, but they don't have the ability to sell a console like a new Smash Bros, 3D Mario, Mario Kart or Zelda can. The games will come to Nintendo's system regardless because Nintendo is the one manufacturing the games that sell their system to begin with. Sony's 1st party franchises don't quite have that pedigree yet.

People won't buy the Wii U to play third party games for the most part. They'll buy it to play the next Smash Bros, or Mario, or Zelda, or Metroid, or whatever else, because the Wii U is the only platform you can play those games on. 

Wii U will be fine. Even with the mediocre offering of games it's had so far, it still managed to sell 3 million+ units in the span of 3 months, and the couple of third party offerings this month have showed that with a steady influx of software, it'll be fine. All these ridiculous cries of doom and gloom will be done when the 1st party games arrive.



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the numbers are still fucking terrible



AbbathTheGrim said:
KungKras said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
Yeah the same thing can be said for PSVita so similar comments and expectations ought to spawn from supporters of this notion when referring to both platforms.

The problem with the Vita is that it has gotten the wrong kind of games for a handheld.


So you just contradicted your whole thread by saying that new games don't necessarily make a difference because they depend on the type of game? Wow.

You actually opted to crap on your own thread just to take a jab at the PSVita. That is some strong grudge.

Not actually when it comes to PSV. In Japan just recently Soul Sacrifice and Senran Kagura both sold more than Lego City in the US, game which is the WiiU game you are referring to when talking about WiiU's boost in sales.

I think you should calm down a bit. The Vita does have a good library of games the problem is that the bulk of it are console ports. That's why the Vita is doing so poorly. Rather than being treated as a handheld, Sony is trying to push it as a home console at the palm of your hands. However, that is not really working out because you can get most of the port on your 360/PS3.

Games like Souls Sacrifice and Senran Kagura are the right games for the the Vita. Ports like Need for Speed Most Wanted are not.

I'm not trying to attack you or anything. If you need me to clarify anything I will oblige.



Somini said:
Wii U saved?

Don't say that. People see these comments and make threads saying, "EVERY Nintendo Fan thinks the Wii U is saved, LOL WTF?!"



Games does.



HaloFailo said:
Nem said:
Somini said:
Wii U saved?

 

Whats the more impressive is Sony fanboys saying the Wii U is doomed. Seriously... how did things go with the PS3? Epic short memory.


The difference is the PS3 was a power house but too expensive and no one outside the inner circle of Sony did know how to develop for it.At the same time Microsoft was with a comparable console that aimed for the same gaming community already 1 year out and the complete oposite in terms of "developer friendly".
But 3rd Party was eager to work on the PS3 and especially after Sony did put out new SDKs and lowered the price with the PS3 Slim everyone was happy.

On the other side you have right now EPIC with the Unreal Engine 4 aka the Engine that will be used the MOST again in this Gen saying "Lol only for NextGen but you have UE3 and hope someone is nice enough to port the games"
Same goes for Frostbite 3 Engine aka the Engine that is probably 2nd behind the UE4 in terms of games it will be used for.
The console is already missing out on the 2 most used Engines...
Call of Duty didn't sell on the WiiU so Activision will probably won't waste much on it either.

Don't compare the WiiU situation to the situation the PS3 was in.
Nintendo can lower the console price to 5$ but the games won't come cause the Engines won't run on it.With some games right now of course its different cause they are transition games for Current and NextGen but you can see what the general opinion is when someone talks about "Only NextGen Games".
The boosts it will get with such small games like Lego are comparable to the boosts Microsoft got through J-RPGs in Japan.Didn't help much either over the long run.
If you buy a Nintendo Console you do it these days for the Nintendo IPs and a handful of others and thats it.

That's a silly argument. If the price was lowered to $5.00, Nintendo would sell as many as they could have produced. Do you really think that those engines wouldn't be ported at that point? Maybe companies really don't like money then.





Stop hating and start playing.