NFSMW released on ps360 ages ago, this is an improved game that released later - its hardly worth buying a new console for. its not even a generation leap improvement, not worth the money

It would be a great benefit to this exchange if you would understand what we are talking about. I have explained twice what indicates their envy, and also twice that the exact reason why they are envious is probaly not consciously known to themselves. I am startign to think that you don't know what envy means, or that you are stuck in some thought pattern where you can't say someone is envious without pointing out the exact pixel location in a screenshot that someone is wishing wasn't there.

What I am doing is pointing out that the type of arguments you see many people resort to very often are based in envy, not trying to guess what people are envious about. It is likely something different for most of them, but given the nature of this website I wouldn't be surprised if some feel that the Wii outselling whatever console they prefer was uncomfortable/embarrasing/incomprehendible/irritating and that they wish for the Wii U to not repeat that cycle. That said, I don't care what it is, and I don't think anyone will admit or even recognize their envy, so it's really not very interesting to go into.

It's good to see a game use some of the Wii U's power, even if it's 4 months late!

Said the majority of people who saw the Battlefield 4 video.

If there's anything I learned from that other thread, it's that Most Wanted on PS3 and 360 maxed out those consoles, and a single game being superior on Wii U means it is indisputably more powerful than them.

Man, everyone sure is really quiet when there's anything positive for Nintendo on the table!

Your lifespan must be pretty short if ages ago is 4 months apart :P.

Someone should show this to Shinn.

Seriously, this kind of argument always going back to PC graphics (out of no where like you do all the time) should be bannable... It got old during last gen, if not before that.

It's only a problem if the people typing things like these are not actually PC gamers and are just trolling to down play or spite on another platform. I actually have this game on Wii U, I have a youtube video I linked in one of the discussions when some people were arguing that the Wii U version is inferior while it's clearly not. This is a honest and true opinion coming from me, so you can either take it for what it is, or complain and get no results since I'm not trolling in any way at all.

I play on all consoles myself. And I can say there are good graphics on every single one of the currently available consoles (yes, including the original Wii. SMG is still one of the most beautiful platforming game I've ever seen. Although, don't sit too close to the screen if you care so much about jaggies -__-). People like you who chime in just to mention how consoles aren't the place to be if you want good graphics, mentioning the PC at every corner is one of the most annoying thing in these forums. Even to a PC gamer, as I am, it's unnecessary and adds nothing to the discussions. If people want to compare console graphics, because they think it's interesting to do so, why do you even care? People are always comparing consoles together, because they're part of what we call console generations. PC isn't a part of that concept, since it's constently evolving and making steps in power every few months...

Anyways, good graphics can be found on consoles just the same as PCs. Technically, the PC always have the edge when it comes to hardware. No shit, Sherlock. But at the same time, to many people, the very fact the the consoles are closed boxed with fixed components makes it all the more interesting to see how game studios manage to master developing on those "gimped" architectures. Managing to create better visuals, new graphics techniques  over the course of the console's lifespan to keep on surprising us. When people say things like "I didn't think it was possible to achieve that on that console", you know something's great. Again, good graphics aren't exclusive to PC, and this argument should die already.

No one is saying PCs are inferior to consoles.