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Viper1 said:
ninjablade said:
Viper1 said:
ninjablade said:

Your talking about this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf29-F2Nh88 cause 360 has more lighting go ahead and watch it and let me  at what seconds this lighting kick in.

I watched your video and you seem to be confusing lighting with gamma color.   The overall oclors on the Wii U version appear darker, right?  That's a gamma difference, not lighting.   

The lighting differences are found in light sources such as street lights, neon signs, etc...

digital foundry makes no mention of better lighting i will take there word, cause i can't see it in pics or videos. i can see some of the better textures,  but only during the cutscene pics. thats the only real upgrade i see, and oh yea they mention a 5fps advantage during crashes. but all version hold a good 30 fps. with sometimes even the 360/ps3 pulling ahead.

Then my question is, do you make a thread every single time Digital Foundry finds just a 5% variance between games?  Why only when it's a Nintendo related issue?

nope because everybody knows ps3/360 are on par with each having advantages, while some people still think wiiu is much more powerful then 360/ps3, and think this is proves it, when in reality its your typical 360 vs ps3 comparison, with wiiu winiing the faceoff, don't you remember this http://www.nintengen.com/2013/02/need-for-speed-most-wanted-wii-u-vs.html 



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ninjablade said:
DieAppleDie said:
ninjablade said:
DieAppleDie said:
WiiU has better framerates during crashes only, it like a 5fps differnce during crashes  and some more crisper textures, as well as more reflections, and thats all, theres no further debate
WiiU version is slightly better
END THREAD

fixed for you. DF doesn't mention any about better lighting, only the tweaks that made during night. which really has nothing to about hardware, it was just an design choice they made.


Enough dude, just watch the comparison video, it seems you missed it

I challenge you, watch the first 40 sec. of the framerate comparison video, let me see if you can notice any differencies.

Your talking about this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf29-F2Nh88 cause 360 has more lighting go ahead and watch it and let me  at what seconds this lighting kick in.

The fact that you think higher gamma means 'more lighting' says a lot about your understanding of the subject. I can't understand why you're on such a bizarre internet campaign to diss the WiiU, why don't you find a positive outlet for your energy, like actually going on boards about your console of choice and saying positive things? Your signature is pure flamebait (not to mention mis-information) anyway, and your only purpose here seems to be to constantly deride Nintendo's hardware... I just don't get it.



SENTIENT6 said:
JazzB1987 said:
SENTIENT6 said:

Nothing you said changes what i said as beinf true...Spin much? Ps4 and new xbox are not long away, no one cares if wii-u looks slightly better at this point it should.  The fact that it barely does, and still lacks many of the features ps3 and xbox has, no one is impressed.

 

Those pics are stills, im moting you would be hard pressed to even see a difference unless you specifically look for it.

 

Wii-u looks better? OK barely and against 7 year odl ahrdware again what do you expect a prize?

"Ps4 and new xbox are not long away, no one cares if wii-u looks slightly better(than ps360)"
Well  especially PS fans CARE ALOT! What WiiU looks like THATS THE POINT.

"and still lacks many of the features ps3 and xbox has"
You still fail to name what FEATURES WiiU lacks compared to current gen systems. Why dont you go into specifics?  

"no one is impressed."
Just because you or some "experts" say they are not impressed you cant say NOONE is.
I was really impressed with the Zelda HD experience.(AND NO IT WAS NOT A VIDEO the first ever LAST OF US  trailer/teaser was more of a video than this was hence the "captured from a Playstation" and not "ingame graphics" text you know when I record a video of Crysis from my gameboy then its "captrured from a Gameboy")

So again Why was I impressed? Because its a Zelda like I have never seen it before while BF4 for example looks like BF3 with better reflections and better faces but its not really something I have not seen before because other than the HUD most "realistic" games have the "same" artstyle. (and no yellow/green "tint" doesnt change the artstyle it just changes the color of the picture.)

"Wii-u looks better? OK barely"
WIiU can look better END OF STORY  not barely compared to 7 year old hardware and not much better.  Its not the time to say how much better it can look like since no normal person knows it.
Would you say PS360 look a bit better than 3DS since Resident Evil Revelations on PS360 does not look as good as other PS360 games? I dont think so.

Judge the system when the first party titles come out or when third party games come out that at least try to take advantage of the system. (not even need for speed WiiU does it and even the PC version just looks BARELY better than PS360 versions because it still is  ONLY a PS360 game ported to better systems) 
Look at monster hunter 3 ultimate it looks barely better than the Wii game (resolution excluded) and when you now base your "expert knowledge" on this then noone can help you lol.

"what do you expect a prize?"
Why would I want a prize?  For what? When did Nintendo fans ever say they want a prize? They are not the ones mentioning power to show off or the ones in need of constant affirmation so I dont get what you want to say with this lol.



JazzB1987 said:
SENTIENT6 said:
JazzB1987 said:
SENTIENT6 said:
 

Nothing you said changes what i said as beinf true...Spin much? Ps4 and new xbox are not long away, no one cares if wii-u looks slightly better at this point it should.  The fact that it barely does, and still lacks many of the features ps3 and xbox has, no one is impressed.

 

Those pics are stills, im moting you would be hard pressed to even see a difference unless you specifically look for it.

 

Wii-u looks better? OK barely and against 7 year odl ahrdware again what do you expect a prize?

"Ps4 and new xbox are not long away, no one cares if wii-u looks slightly better(than ps360)"
Well  especially PS fans CARE ALOT! What WiiU looks like THATS THE POINT.

"and still lacks many of the features ps3 and xbox has"
You still fail to name what FEATURES WiiU lacks compared to current gen systems. Why dont you go into specifics?  

"no one is impressed."
Just because you or some "experts" say they are not impressed you cant say NOONE is.
I was really impressed with the Zelda HD experience.(AND NO IT WAS NOT A VIDEO the first ever LAST OF US  trailer/teaser was more of a video than this was hence the "captured from a Playstation" and not "ingame graphics" text you know when I record a video of Crysis from my gameboy then its "captrured from a Gameboy")

So again Why was I impressed? Because its a Zelda like I have never seen it before while BF4 for example looks like BF3 with better reflections and better faces but its not really something I have not seen before because other than the HUD most "realistic" games have the "same" artstyle. (and no yellow/green "tint" doesnt change the artstyle it just changes the color of the picture.)

"Wii-u looks better? OK barely"
WIiU can look better END OF STORY  not barely compared to 7 year old hardware and not much better.  Its not the time to say how much better it can look like since no normal person knows it.
Would you say PS360 look a bit better than 3DS since Resident Evil Revelations on PS360 does not look as good as other PS360 games? I dont think so.

Judge the system when the first party titles come out or when third party games come out that at least try to take advantage of the system. (not even need for speed WiiU does it and even the PC version just looks BARELY better than PS360 versions because it still is  ONLY a PS360 game ported to better systems) 
Look at monster hunter 3 ultimate it looks barely better than the Wii game (resolution excluded) and when you now base your "expert knowledge" on this then noone can help you lol.

"what do you expect a prize?"
Why would I want a prize?  For what? When did Nintendo fans ever say they want a prize? They are not the ones mentioning power to show off or the ones in need of constant affirmation so I dont get what you want to say with this lol.

The wii-u is only barely more powerfull the CPU hamstrings the system, and its lack of power is why Unreal 4 and other engiones wont riun on it, that is a big issue foir nintendo, There is nothing hardware wise much above ps3 or 360. A system is only as fast as its slowest part it's gimped CPU really hurts the system.  Nothing else you said is even relevant.

 

PS360 gap is massive between 3ds comapred the the wiiu and 360ps which are about equal, horrid comparison.  Wiiu can look slightly better WOW< amazing, welcome to 2006.



Some people here...how much bullshit does one have to spew, how many times needs one to be banned before a permaban comes into play? Unbelievable...



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timmah said:
ninjablade said:
DieAppleDie said:
ninjablade said:
DieAppleDie said:
WiiU has better framerates during crashes only, it like a 5fps differnce during crashes  and some more crisper textures, as well as more reflections, and thats all, theres no further debate
WiiU version is slightly better
END THREAD

fixed for you. DF doesn't mention any about better lighting, only the tweaks that made during night. which really has nothing to about hardware, it was just an design choice they made.


Enough dude, just watch the comparison video, it seems you missed it

I challenge you, watch the first 40 sec. of the framerate comparison video, let me see if you can notice any differencies.

Your talking about this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf29-F2Nh88 cause 360 has more lighting go ahead and watch it and let me  at what seconds this lighting kick in.

The fact that you think higher gamma means 'more lighting' says a lot about your understanding of the subject. I can't understand why you're on such a bizarre internet campaign to diss the WiiU, why don't you find a positive outlet for your energy, like actually going on boards about your console of choice and saying positive things? Your signature is pure flamebait (not to mention mis-information) anyway, and your only purpose here seems to be to constantly deride Nintendo's hardware... I just don't get it.



the gamma  difference brings out better lighting,  based on the video because that lighting stands out more, thats the only thing i noticed that looked better in the comparison video, along with some textures looking better in the wiiu version during cutscenes but i can post many pics of ps3 vs 360 comparsisons where the 360 version looks much sharper and makes the ps3 version look blurry while need for speed  wiiiu, they look the same with wiiu having a few more high resolution textures that are very hard to notice because of the post processing out put and the 720p out put, and about me putting down i'm not. my sig states, it could be 160sp, and many people think this condering a 320sp pc parts destroys 360/ps3 and a new 160 sp part can stand toe to toe and even beat them in some games. thing is i was bashed on this forum for stating my opinion on what the wiiu will sell and its power, i think its a few memembers that take this too seriously, where just talking about sales, games hardware, what's the problem exactly, why does what i think or say get to you guys.



ninjablade said:
timmah said:
ninjablade said:
DieAppleDie said:
ninjablade said:
DieAppleDie said:
WiiU has better framerates during crashes only, it like a 5fps differnce during crashes  and some more crisper textures, as well as more reflections, and thats all, theres no further debate
WiiU version is slightly better
END THREAD

fixed for you. DF doesn't mention any about better lighting, only the tweaks that made during night. which really has nothing to about hardware, it was just an design choice they made.


Enough dude, just watch the comparison video, it seems you missed it

I challenge you, watch the first 40 sec. of the framerate comparison video, let me see if you can notice any differencies.

Your talking about this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf29-F2Nh88 cause 360 has more lighting go ahead and watch it and let me  at what seconds this lighting kick in.

The fact that you think higher gamma means 'more lighting' says a lot about your understanding of the subject. I can't understand why you're on such a bizarre internet campaign to diss the WiiU, why don't you find a positive outlet for your energy, like actually going on boards about your console of choice and saying positive things? Your signature is pure flamebait (not to mention mis-information) anyway, and your only purpose here seems to be to constantly deride Nintendo's hardware... I just don't get it.



the gamma  difference brings out better lighting,  based on the video because that lighting stands out more, thats the only thing i noticed that looked better in the comparison video, along with some textures looking better in the wiiu version during cutscenes but i can post many pics of ps3 vs 360 comparsisons where the 360 version looks much sharper and makes the ps3 version look blurry while need for speed  wiiiu, they look the same with wiiu having a few more high resolution textures that are very hard to notice because of the post processing out put and the 720p out put, and about me putting down i'm not. my sig states, it could be 160sp, and many people think this condering a 320sp pc parts destroys 360/ps3 and a new 160 sp part can stand toe to toe and even beat them in some games. thing is i was bashed on this forum for stating my opinion on what the wiiu will sell and its power, i think its a few memembers that take this too seriously, where just talking about sales, games hardware, what's the problem exactly, why does what i think or say get to you guys.


I'd say ppl have been TOO tolerant with you to be honest.  If I was one of the mods, I woud've permaban you a long, long time ago.  You barely go into any forums except Nintendo ones (from your history) and all you do is diss Nintendo. 



ninjablade said:

 why does what i think or say get to you guys.

Because all you do is provoke.

If you were more balanced, you're statements would be met with much greater warmth.  Instead, ever post is negative towards Nintendo.  How exactly do you expect people to react towards you?  And I can't even believe I'm even typing this out because you now damn good and well the answer to your own question.



The rEVOLution is not being televised

oni-link said:
ninjablade said:
timmah said:
ninjablade said:
DieAppleDie said:
ninjablade said:
DieAppleDie said:
WiiU has better framerates during crashes only, it like a 5fps differnce during crashes  and some more crisper textures, as well as more reflections, and thats all, theres no further debate
WiiU version is slightly better
END THREAD

fixed for you. DF doesn't mention any about better lighting, only the tweaks that made during night. which really has nothing to about hardware, it was just an design choice they made.


Enough dude, just watch the comparison video, it seems you missed it

I challenge you, watch the first 40 sec. of the framerate comparison video, let me see if you can notice any differencies.

Your talking about this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf29-F2Nh88 cause 360 has more lighting go ahead and watch it and let me  at what seconds this lighting kick in.

The fact that you think higher gamma means 'more lighting' says a lot about your understanding of the subject. I can't understand why you're on such a bizarre internet campaign to diss the WiiU, why don't you find a positive outlet for your energy, like actually going on boards about your console of choice and saying positive things? Your signature is pure flamebait (not to mention mis-information) anyway, and your only purpose here seems to be to constantly deride Nintendo's hardware... I just don't get it.



the gamma  difference brings out better lighting,  based on the video because that lighting stands out more, thats the only thing i noticed that looked better in the comparison video, along with some textures looking better in the wiiu version during cutscenes but i can post many pics of ps3 vs 360 comparsisons where the 360 version looks much sharper and makes the ps3 version look blurry while need for speed  wiiiu, they look the same with wiiu having a few more high resolution textures that are very hard to notice because of the post processing out put and the 720p out put, and about me putting down i'm not. my sig states, it could be 160sp, and many people think this condering a 320sp pc parts destroys 360/ps3 and a new 160 sp part can stand toe to toe and even beat them in some games. thing is i was bashed on this forum for stating my opinion on what the wiiu will sell and its power, i think its a few memembers that take this too seriously, where just talking about sales, games hardware, what's the problem exactly, why does what i think or say get to you guys.


I'd say ppl have been TOO tolerant with you to be honest.  If I was one of the mods, I woud've permaban you a long, long time ago.  You barely go into any forums except Nintendo ones (from your history) and all you do is diss Nintendo. 


looks at title of thread, cry me a river, some of you guys are hilarious, even in a comparison thread you guys complain, show me anything that i said in this thread that was ban worthy.



Viper1 said:
ninjablade said:

 why does what i think or say get to you guys.

Because all you do is provoke.

If you were more balanced, you're statements would be met with much greater warmth.  Instead, ever post is negative towards Nintendo.  How exactly do you expect people to react towards you?  And I can't even believe I'm even typing this out because you now damn good and well the answer to your own question.


i always say mario and zelda are great, the only thing is i think wiiu will fail in sales and its hardware is on par with current gen, and i stopped posting in most threads about nintendo, there is like 3-4 doom thread every day and i havent even posted in them. i don't post much here like i used to anyway. but i figured we can discuss and compare in a comparsion thread but even thats get you guys provoked.