ok  i said it looks 5% better, you really have to be looking to see those small details and i can't notice those relections your talking about, i think proper AA would have been much better, then these small upgrade in textures and extra shine on the road. its an upgrade i honestly wouldn't care about and hardly noticable, look at the gameplay pics the differnce is hardly noticable. really though forza horizone crushes this in graphics.

Lol, 5% better..? That would imply that the average person would struggle to see the difference. I suggest you either take another look at the DF article or go to Specsavers, the difference to me is quite striking tbh.

If anyone has a complex it's you, what do you expect? wii-u comes out 6 years later and is barely any better then what ps3 and 360 been doing for years, in many ways is still behind (Online, features), what is there to be impressed about. On top of this Nintendo fans go around screaming graphics don't matter, but wait they do now?

Lol?  You do realize that we are in WiiUs first 6 months?  And that 99% of the stuff we saw so far is ports and  low budget titels? (why would anyone invest 100 million for something like ZombiU? Would be stupid and way to risky) You cant base your PERFORMANCE KNOWLEDGE on this crap dude. 

Let me give you 2 examples.
(1) Final Fantasy 13 was developed for PS3  in the middle of the development they said LETS MAKE IT MULTIPLAT they still had a ton of time but it was not enought to rewrite the code etc to make the 360 version as good as the PS3 version in the end the resolution was reduced to 1024x576.

(2) Then look at all those PS3 ports that stutter more or look worse than the 360 games even tho the devs had alot of time. This mainly happened because the devs were not that experienced with the PS3 hardware. 

Now think about a console that has less in common with PS3 and 360 in terms of what  the CPU is supposed to handle and what the GPU is supposed to handle etc.
In WIiU the GPU is supposed to handle CPU tasks (GPU power/price ratio is much better than CPU thats why Nintendo has this "shitty" cpu)  you have to rewrite and recode alot of stuff to make the games run GREAT on WiiU and just look at Mass Effect 3, Darksiders 2 etc.  Launch titles "written" on beta hardware looking on par with current gen consoles where devs had 5+ years time to master the hardware. I mean Mass Effect 3 runs better on WiiU than on PS3! And dont forget that alot of WiiU ports are made by external studios etc.

Initial porting from 360 to WiiU is easier you have the games running at 1FPS but thats nothing you want.  Making the games (with their CPU focused engines) run at 25+ FPS on a GPU focused system with "slow" CPU is more work than you might think and is harder than alot of people think.  Just look at how shitty uber CPU based game like GTA4 ran on PC. 

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And usually its other people comparing  current gen  to WiiU not Nintendo fans  but everytime a Nintendo fan or PRO Nintendo person mentions this its  OF COURSE WIIU WINS ITS NEWER BLAH! Or devs had more Time BLAH. Or THE GAME WAS NOT DEMANDING TO BEGIN WITH!  The simple denial that anything can be worse than a Nintendo product is the fear of inferiority Mega was talking about.
It doesnt matter if the Nintendo product is 10 years newer than the own product. ITS IMPOSSIBLE! And when everything points to the Nintendo product being superior its   OF COURSE IT IS followed by  KINDERGARTEN EXCUSE 1, KINDERGARTEN EXCUSE 2 ......    its newer because Nintendo did something right or because it deserved something etc.  its LUCK at best.

And how does WiiUs online  lack lol? Its better than any other systems online(but I am pretty sure thats also just because its newer right? or its just LUCK. It cant be because Nintendo has some smart people etc..)  and what are those mystical features you talk about?  Dualshock support? Xbox Live? Sure WiiU does not have it how shitty this console must be xD 

To bad I cannot play in my bathroom while my WiiU is in my living room   OH WAIT....  WiiU can also NOT pause the game and then browse youtube for video guides in case I am stuck in a game and then let me play the game again with a simple press of a button OH WAIT!  To bad there is no extra screen so I can play with 4 friends because my shitty TV only has 4 player splitscreen   OH WAIT!

You know  not everybody cares about the same stuff you do thats why I dont know what features you mean because for me there is nothing missing. And I have a PS3 and 360 so do you care to go into specifics please?

P.S.
You dont understand the graphics thing right?  
Nintendo fans are happy about better graphics(often in combination with artstyle) but compared to (ALOT OF) other fans thats just a nice extra.  Nintendo fans are usually like " I cant wait to see the next Mario when I think about how  Mario Galaxy (on Wii hardware) was able to look so great!  I cant wait any longer!!!!! It is because its suprising everytime." 

Its not like they go

" HURR DURR   ME LOOKZ AT GRAFX  ME LIKEZ   OH BOOM    HURR DURR. FEELZ SUPERIOR!"

They are not showing off  with how powerful their systems are they only come out and say NO YOU ARE WRONG WiiU LOOKS BETTER When others LIE about how shitty Nintendo graphics are. They are usually not the agressors.   This is 2 different things!

Btw what did (ALOT NOT ALL!) PS2 fans do back then?   "PS2 graphics dont matter" and now  "PS3 is THE BESTESTEST!"   (so better dont remind others how alot (NOT ALL!!!) of Sony fans  are  HINT: They lose the "WORST FAN" polls everytime!)

Nothing you said changes what i said as beinf true...Spin much? Ps4 and new xbox are not long away, no one cares if wii-u looks slightly better at this point it should.  The fact that it barely does, and still lacks many of the features ps3 and xbox has, no one is impressed.

Those pics are stills, im moting you would be hard pressed to even see a difference unless you specifically look for it.

Wii-u looks better? OK barely and against 7 year odl ahrdware again what do you expect a prize?

Yes, you can see them. The fact that you can read the writing on this site means you can see the difference. You're just ignoring it because it doesn't serve your anti-Wii U agenda.

Come on now. It's not like it's night and day. ¬_¬

i honestly the only thing i see is the curb is properly textures on wiiu, looks 5% better is more then fair.

WiiU has better framerates and more crisp textures, as well as more reflections and sun effects , and thats all, theres no further debate
WiiU version is slightly better
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So they finished the game for PS3/X360, started working on the Wii U version, found they could use some PC textures in a few places, greatly enhance the night time lighting engine and stabilize the frame rate a little more.

Excellent.

Now is it really worth a 5 page thread to complain about it?
Is it really necessary to state in one thread that you'll wait for Digital Foundry to prove Criterion's claims and then when they do you rant about it?
Do you really get a kick out of kicking the Wii U as much as you do?
Is your sig really necessary? Do you need to expose your agenda so blatantly with every post you make?
Do you feel threatened by any success of the Wii U?
Does your ego require a minimum daily dose of Wii U bashing just to sustain itself?
Do you wake up every morning and ponder just how many Nintendo fans you can frustrate today?