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Haven't played Tomb Raider yet but I dont see how it could be better than any Uncharted(1-3). They were masterpieces, I don't think I could find anything wrong with them. I can't wait to play Tomb Raider and im sure its going to be amazing but...just my opinion.



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Jay520 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Okay, run with that. I didn't much care for Uncharted even though I played all the PS3 games. Yet I think Tomb Raider is fucking amazing!


I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or if you're agreeing with me. If it's sarcasm, then you should see what you wrote here:

"Good point... I don't really have many fond memories of the Uncharted series.

I enjoyed them enough to play though them. That's worth something."

You admitted that you don't think Uncharted is that great. You only find it bearable. Now, let's go back to the point of this thread: You want to tell us how amazing Tomb Raider is. What's one way to do this? You can do this by comparing it to other great/amazing and by showing that Tomb Raider is on par or superior with them. What's one way not to do this? Comparing it with mediocre/bearable games. Comparing Tomb Raider with a mediocre game does not show how great Tomb Raider is. 

Proving that game X is better than average does not show how great game X is. What's so hard to understand?

But Uncharted is not average. Even though I didn't exactly enjoy it, I can see its above average and appealed to me enough to play through the trilogy.

I'm not really trying to prove Tomb Raider is better than Uncharted, that's subjective. I can't prove TR's action packed and fast gameplay is more enjoyable than the boring, slow paced, stop everything dialogue heavy Uncharted series. I can't prove great controls and fun gunplay in TR is more enjoyable than the broken controls, horrible gunplay, and endless waves of bullet sponge enemies of Uncharted.

All I'm saying is... I enjoyed TR more than the Uncharted series. Simple as that. Don't read too much into it.



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Mirson said:
Jay520 said:
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AbbathTheGrim said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Tomb Raider (2013) might be the greatest adventure game I ever played.

 

 


I believe you. Now you just need to play the Uncharted games for real.

The Uncharted series is the primary reason I bought a PS3. Played through them all, UC3 was my personal favorite.

They are good games, but each game suffers from boring levels and horrible gunplay. There was definitely some slogging when playing the Uncharted series. Tomb Raider on the other hand... is fucking incredible! I really have nothing bad to say about it, its an amazing game.



How can a game with boring levels and horrible gameplay qualify as a good game?

Good graphics maybe?

Joking aside, maybe he enjoyed the set-pieces / cinematic expirience. I'm not a fan of Uncharted's gameplay, specifically UC1 & 3, but I was amazed with the set-pieces. However, the Uncharted games aren't types of games I would replay over and over because of its linearity and scripted events. Good for one playthrough, but that's it for me.

Haven't played Tomb Raider yet, but I'm going to rent it because I feel it'll be like Uncharted in terms of replay value for me.

You're actually right. I enjoy the characters, the story, and just looking at the game. The gameplay on the otherhand... about average.

I sold my copies, I just can't imagine really playing them again. But I'll likely play future releases.



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Haven't played the game yet so I can't judge but UC3 > UC2

 

Also pretty much sure a lot of the rave for the game is because of the boobs. 



I have'nt played Tomb Raider yet but for me it's Uncharter2>Uncharted>Uncharted3. Tomb Raider looks great, not sure if i'll prefer it over UC2, looks better than the first Uncharted, I would also say that it looks better from what I saw/heard than Uncharted2 but I won't make that statement untill I play it.



 

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KylieDog said:
If you ignore Uncharteds better story, better characters, better graphics, better MP, better set action pieces, better pace, better balance...

...better most things. I guess TR had more puzzles, but they were really simple and hard to call puzzles.

TR isn't even a better TR than the older TR games.

What is this oposite day? I didn't get the memo. ;)

I loved the old Tomb Raider games. Been playing them since the first one on Saturn. The originals are still good. Legends, Anniversary and Underworld are great. Underworld is still one of my favorite games of this generation. The new Tomb Raider is my new favorite Tomb Raider.

As for the whole Uncharted Vs Tomb Raider debate. I think Tomb Raider has a better story, but Uncharted has more well written characters. While Lara is very well written the rest of the characters aren't as fleshed out as Uncharted. But the game is all about Lara dealing with stuff mostly on her own and not about her interacting with other characters like Drake does all the time. She is also in constant peril while Nathan gets to take a breather and talk things out with his buddies a lot. I liked Lara's seclusion. She has always been mostly on her own with at most a character or two on the radio to give some clues and details to help her. Neither is fundamentally better, but one method can appeal more to one person than another. That's why you like Uncharted's more blockbuster movie approach.

As for graphics, Tomb Raider is amazing. The PC version is absolutely stunning and the console version looks just as good to me as Uncharted. Uncharted often rendered beautiful vistas which are more aesthetically appealing while Tomb Raider renders a lot of bleak destroyed oppressive scenes. Again they may appeal to different people.

The pacing in Uncharted is like a movie. The pacing in Tomb Raider is handed to the player. I prefer the exploration focus on Tomb Raider. The set pieces are exciting in both games. Uncharted is more over the top like a Michael Bay movie. Nothing wrong with that I love over the top. I also appreciated and enjoyed the less fantastical but still death defying action that Lara found herself in. She was on an island after all, there were no trains to run on top over or cargo planes to leap over boxes for.

As for the multiplayer, I don't have any interest in either. I haven't played Tomb Raider's MP yet and may never. I have played Uncharted's MP and I didn't like it, but I don't care for Uncharted combat in general. That brings me to "balance". I'm not sure what you mean but if you mean combat/weapons then Tomb Raider wins outright. The combat in Tomb Raider is excellent. You can be stealthy or you can be aggressive. No matter how I approached the combat I had fun and never felt like the game was getting in my way. Uncharted is very loose and the bad guys take too many bullets in my opinion. The result is combat that I just want to get past so I can see what Drake does next. With Tomb Raider I enjoyed everything and never wanted to finish one thing so I could do another.

With that said I don't think the games are enough alike to be compared in the way everyone is. Tomb Raider is a much more open ended game. You explore, upgrade weapons, level up Lara, and get into a lot of exciting trouble. Nathan Drake gets into a lot of trouble too, but that's about all the two have in common. Uncharted is good and Tomb Raider is good. Liking one more than the other doesn't mean one is good and the other is bad.



CGI-Quality said:
For me, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune > Tomb Raider > Uncharted 3 > Uncharted 2. Tomb Raider doesn't quite clear the freshness of Drake's first adventure, but it's definitely made its case among the best games of this genre. So I nearly agree, but not quite.

Lol this is funny, I'd rather rank those games in the exact opposite way :)



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KylieDog said:
If you ignore Uncharteds better story, better characters, better graphics, better MP, better set action pieces, better pace, better balance...

...better most things. I guess TR had more puzzles, but they were really simple and hard to call puzzles.

TR isn't even a better TR than the older TR games.

Better graphics? They're kinda at par. Also, TR doesn't rely on FMV nearly as much.

Better MP? Grenade spam.

Better set piece? TR's has large enviornments that allow for more tactical combat and simply offer more to explore.

Better pace? Uncharted is slow.

Better balance? Uncharted is waves of bullet sponge enemies that can bore you to tears.



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Uncharted 2 > Tomb Raider > Uncharted > Uncharted 3

Tomb Raider is a brilliant game.



                            

Haven't played the new Tomb Raider yet, but in my opinion Uncharted 2 is by far the best game in the series. The others were absolutely great as well, though.