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tbone51 on 26 March 2013
dahuman said:
tbone51 said:
dahuman said:

I uh, only got 2 things from this:
a.) He sucks at Monster Hunter.
b.) He really really sucks at Monster Hunter

Also, don't tell me you guys don't remember the eagle clawing in Freedom and Freedom Unite on PSP, because I do, now I actually can control the camera with the touch screen on the 3DS so I don't see how that's such a terrible thing vs the eagle clawing of the past, which you can still do on 3DS if you so desire. The 2nd analog pro pad is like what? 20 bucks? Still cheaper than the Vita combined? NO FUCKING WAY!

Oh and this is me playing Monter Hunter, come join us guys <3


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i said the same thing lol, $20 for a permanent 2nd analog! People who complain about spending an extra $20 for 3DS when they want it on vita *facepalm* ITS STILL CHEAPER! add on excuse, Memory cards is an add on then as well, an expensive add on lol

Not to mention a 32GB Class10 MicroSD card, not even a full size mind you, can be found for 19-20 bucks, it's like what are people bitching at?



Hater Effect can do that. I mean i feel bad MH3U isn't multiplat but its not nintendo's fault. Dissing the 3ds wen it doesnt have to be isn't necessary. I love how people complain about only one analog and they dont want to spend an extra $20 for the extra part and want it on a vita but dont complain about memory they have to pay for lol. Like i said before if they want it cheap they could of went to target this week and got a 3ds[$129.99]+CPP[$20]+game[$40] and it would of been $200(with tax) cheaper than just buying a new vita without getting the game or memory yet O.o



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dahuman on 26 March 2013
tbone51 said:
dahuman said:
tbone51 said:
dahuman said:

I uh, only got 2 things from this:
a.) He sucks at Monster Hunter.
b.) He really really sucks at Monster Hunter

Also, don't tell me you guys don't remember the eagle clawing in Freedom and Freedom Unite on PSP, because I do, now I actually can control the camera with the touch screen on the 3DS so I don't see how that's such a terrible thing vs the eagle clawing of the past, which you can still do on 3DS if you so desire. The 2nd analog pro pad is like what? 20 bucks? Still cheaper than the Vita combined? NO FUCKING WAY!

Oh and this is me playing Monter Hunter, come join us guys <3


Watch live video from Totally Random on TwitchTV



i said the same thing lol, $20 for a permanent 2nd analog! People who complain about spending an extra $20 for 3DS when they want it on vita *facepalm* ITS STILL CHEAPER! add on excuse, Memory cards is an add on then as well, an expensive add on lol

Not to mention a 32GB Class10 MicroSD card, not even a full size mind you, can be found for 19-20 bucks, it's like what are people bitching at?



Hater Effect can do that. I mean i feel bad MH3U isn't multiplat but its not nintendo's fault. Dissing the 3ds wen it doesnt have to be isn't necessary. I love how people complain about only one analog and they dont want to spend an extra $20 for the extra part and want it on a vita but dont complain about memory they have to pay for lol. Like i said before if they want it cheap they could of went to target this week and got a 3ds[$129.99]+CPP[$20]+game[$40] and it would of been $200(with tax) cheaper than just buying a new vita without getting the game or memory yet O.o

The sad part is 3DS comes with a memory card already, and the second pad is not required for the game to work, whereas Vita's memory card is mandatory and some SKUs don't have one bundled at all, AKA you can't do shit without it. Anyways, I'm done talking about it, I know there are a lot of Vita supporters around, and as much as I think it's a dumb complaint, I think I'm done upsetting people.



tbone51 on 26 March 2013
dahuman said:
tbone51 said:
dahuman said:
tbone51 said:
dahuman said:

I uh, only got 2 things from this:
a.) He sucks at Monster Hunter.
b.) He really really sucks at Monster Hunter

Also, don't tell me you guys don't remember the eagle clawing in Freedom and Freedom Unite on PSP, because I do, now I actually can control the camera with the touch screen on the 3DS so I don't see how that's such a terrible thing vs the eagle clawing of the past, which you can still do on 3DS if you so desire. The 2nd analog pro pad is like what? 20 bucks? Still cheaper than the Vita combined? NO FUCKING WAY!

Oh and this is me playing Monter Hunter, come join us guys <3


Watch live video from Totally Random on TwitchTV



i said the same thing lol, $20 for a permanent 2nd analog! People who complain about spending an extra $20 for 3DS when they want it on vita *facepalm* ITS STILL CHEAPER! add on excuse, Memory cards is an add on then as well, an expensive add on lol

Not to mention a 32GB Class10 MicroSD card, not even a full size mind you, can be found for 19-20 bucks, it's like what are people bitching at?



Hater Effect can do that. I mean i feel bad MH3U isn't multiplat but its not nintendo's fault. Dissing the 3ds wen it doesnt have to be isn't necessary. I love how people complain about only one analog and they dont want to spend an extra $20 for the extra part and want it on a vita but dont complain about memory they have to pay for lol. Like i said before if they want it cheap they could of went to target this week and got a 3ds[$129.99]+CPP[$20]+game[$40] and it would of been $200(with tax) cheaper than just buying a new vita without getting the game or memory yet O.o

The sad part is 3DS comes with a memory card already, and the second pad is not required for the game to work, whereas Vita's memory card is mandatory and some SKUs don't have one bundled at all, AKA you can't do shit without it. Anyways, I'm done talking about it, I know there are a lot of Vita supporters around, and as much as I think it's a dumb complaint, I think I'm done upsetting people.



lol, vita is a great piece of hardware, nothing wrong about it to me. I personally Just dont like others bashing 3ds cuz of vita. We aint attacking, just defending imo



NintendoPie on 26 March 2013
noname2200 said:
This man is a visionary and a genius!

No, NoName.

He is a god.



Lonely_Dolphin on 26 March 2013

lol, that guy is mad. I'm gonna have to agree though that it would be better n more accesible with another circle pad, atleast for me and probably others new to the franchise. When I played the demo my thoughts were exactly that it would be easier to handle with another circle pad. Even still I probably wouldn't have been very interested in the game but that's just me.



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VGKing on 26 March 2013
tbone51 said:

even though i agree with the huge psp user base, its to early to tell. You dont how well MH4 will sell. It might do as good as the best 2 titles did on the psp. Just saying maybe you should determine that after summer.

No, I don't know how well MH4 will sell. But Capcom could have released another PSP title by now that would have broken records...



VGKing on 26 March 2013
MDMAlliance said:
VGKing said:
tbone51 said:
Wat i dont understand is why people cant take out $20 extra for the CPP? I mean 1st of all the 3DS is more fit with just 1 anolog(even though i wish it had 2 to begin with) and while some games scream a second anolog like RE revelations and MH3U(both work good without 2nd analog either way) why cant they just buy a CPP? Complaints its more $$ but rather have it on Vita?

Well you can get 3 CPP with a 3DS and it'll be cheaper than a vita cuz you'll need to get a memory card anyway. Some people will agree with this guy only cuz MH3U is not on the platform they want. Its too bad, Get both Handhelds and if not dont complain.

I want Gravity Rush and One Piece Warriors 2. You dont hear me saying it'll be better on 3DS cuz of 2 screens. Its my problem i dont own a vita yet. Plain and Simple

It's not a price problem. It's a design problem. Some games require a 2nd analog and the CPP is Nintendo admitting to a flaw in the 3DS design.
The whole point this guy made is how they are putting a game on a platform that doesn't even make sense purely for profit. It's obvious that console-style games aren't a very good fit for the 3DS and that's what Monster Hunter is. A console-style game. Vita is perfect for console style games. Some keep bashing the Vita calling it a PS3 port machine but that's actually one of its advantages IMO. 


The PS3 has a design problem too.  It requires a controller you need to buy for motion controls.  The 360 has a design problem too, it needed the kinect to do motion controls.  There's no microphone built into the PS3 or 360, there's a design problem.  

Every console has a "design problem."  This is really not a good argument at all.

CPP is used in like only 1% of games, and isn't required.  You can control the game without it, and really it doesn't make that much sense to complain so much about it when you rarely ever use it.  

Can't say it isn't the same thing, because it pretty much is.  

That just doesn't make any sense. Motion Controls are a fad. A second analog stick isn't.
Dual Analog sticks have been standard in consoles since the PS2.



tbone51 on 26 March 2013
VGKing said:
tbone51 said:

even though i agree with the huge psp user base, its to early to tell. You dont how well MH4 will sell. It might do as good as the best 2 titles did on the psp. Just saying maybe you should determine that after summer.

No, I don't know how well MH4 will sell. But Capcom could have released another PSP title by now that would have broken records...



another psp would of been a great idea. Wats up wit Sony+Capcom? Is it just MH? Anyway MH4 might have a chance (small but still) to surpass the other MH games since its getting much more popular outside of Japan. Waiting on seeing how MH3U does on 3ds this year. If the west does over a mil, its kinda guaranteed tgat MH4 will outsell the others imo(just saying)



VGKing on 26 March 2013
Devil_Survivor said:
VGKing said:
c0rd said:
VGKing said:
tbone51 said:
Wat i dont understand is why people cant take out $20 extra for the CPP? I mean 1st of all the 3DS is more fit with just 1 anolog(even though i wish it had 2 to begin with) and while some games scream a second anolog like RE revelations and MH3U(both work good without 2nd analog either way) why cant they just buy a CPP? Complaints its more $$ but rather have it on Vita?

Well you can get 3 CPP with a 3DS and it'll be cheaper than a vita cuz you'll need to get a memory card anyway. Some people will agree with this guy only cuz MH3U is not on the platform they want. Its too bad, Get both Handhelds and if not dont complain.

I want Gravity Rush and One Piece Warriors 2. You dont hear me saying it'll be better on 3DS cuz of 2 screens. Its my problem i dont own a vita yet. Plain and Simple

It's not a price problem. It's a design problem. Some games require a 2nd analog and the CPP is Nintendo admitting to a flaw in the 3DS design.
The whole point this guy made is how they are putting a game on a platform that doesn't even make sense purely for profit. It's obvious that console-style games aren't a very good fit for the 3DS and that's what Monster Hunter is. A console-style game. Vita is perfect for console style games. Some keep bashing the Vita calling it a PS3 port machine but that's actually one of its advantages IMO. 

Most games don't need the analog. It only hurts MH3 in underwater fights, and MH4 won't have any.

@ the platform not making sense for profit, how so? The Vita hasn't been selling, and they already made a deal with Nintendo. Vita exclusive would've been a disaster.

As for where the game should be - the games should be where they sell the best, that's how the industry works. Otherwise, there's no sense in having any home consoles at all, because they're all inferior to PC's. Just listen to the elitist PC crowd who whine about how console games have ruined gaming.

The Monter Hunter games sold millions on PSP. There's a reason for that. It's because the PSP doesn't have Pokemon or Mario. Monster Hunter pretty much had the PSP all to itself. Monster Hunter on the 3DS will have trouble reaching the same success as the PSP since it has a lot more competition. This is why you see 3rd party games selling better on Vita or PSP instead of DS or 3DS. 

Yes, the games should be where they sell best and for Monster Hunter that should be the PSP or Vita. Capcom has to build a fanbase for the franchise on the 3DS when there is already one on the PSP. If they had made a Monster Hunter game for Vita, it would have been a smooth transition. But Nintendo stepped in and pulled a Microsoft. Now look at the Japanese market. Look how dreadful those sales are across the board....3DS isn't picking up the slack for the Vita.  This may sound crazy but the lack of Monster Hunter on the Vita due to some Nintendo/Capcom deal has hurt the games industry in Japan.

VG, I don't how you work yourself into these Glen Beck like posts lol. Yes, it sold millions on PSP, but it so did also on Wii. It sold like shit on the Sony home consoles, so not seeing your point actually other the fact you want Monster Hunter on Vita because you think it save the Vita. The fact this is a business, and Capcom probably made a business calculation seeing that the 3DS install base is over 6 times the Vita's. I3rd party games sell better on 3DS than Vita, example RE:Revelations has sold over 700,000 and that's more than ever Vita game except Uncharted I think. Pulling a Mircosoft? Please don't use that tited Sony fan nonsense people keep yelling about Microsoft buying exclusives. Every company, including Nintendo with thier army of super selling exclusives, enters into deals to bring software to their consoles, its nothing new. Its up to the developer whether or not their game will be exclusive or to a platform. Sony tries to buy exclusives too so don't act like they don't.

Who the hell is Glen Beck?
Monster Hunter sold "like shit" on Sony home consoles because it didn't become the juggernaut it is until the PSP releases. The Wii game released after Monster Hunter exploded in popularity. 3rd Party games DO NOT sell better on 3DS. Looking at games that have released on both 3DS/Vita you see that some have actually sold better on Vita despite the much lower install base.

A perfect example is Rayman Origins.
0.03m on 3DS
0.31m on Vita

Fifa Soccer 13
0.13m on 3DS
0.18m on Vita

3rd party games sell exponentially better on Vita despite that MUCH MUCH lower install base. That is reason enough for a game like Monster Hunter to be on Vita. Not only because the fanbase is there, but because it will sell more.



dahuman on 26 March 2013
tbone51 said:
VGKing said:
tbone51 said:

even though i agree with the huge psp user base, its to early to tell. You dont how well MH4 will sell. It might do as good as the best 2 titles did on the psp. Just saying maybe you should determine that after summer.

No, I don't know how well MH4 will sell. But Capcom could have released another PSP title by now that would have broken records...



another psp would of been a great idea. Wats up wit Sony+Capcom? Is it just MH? Anyway MH4 might have a chance (small but still) to surpass the other MH games since its getting much more popular outside of Japan. Waiting on seeing how MH3U does on 3ds this year. If the west does over a mil, its kinda guaranteed tgat MH4 will outsell the others imo(just saying)


Something must have happened, because I was actually hoping for an actual sequal MH for PS3 or something but then it came to the Wii and I was like whoa? Still easily clocked 220+ hours though so it was good anyways, I really wish the Wii U version had better visuals but when you are busy killing monsters, you really don't notice them lol. It becomes like, "tail! tail!" or "head! head!" or "claws! claws!" etc lol..... I find it really strange how well the game is starting to do at the west though, it's almost like being on Nintendo is making it more popular in the west O_O;