Riiiiiight

How dare Sony let us pay $17 for 9 games and discounts up the ass. NOT FAIR SONY!! <----Sarcasm

You and a few others see it. It's so obvious as well. I can't see how they can't see it. I said noting about this f2p crap. It's just about double standards and ambushing the article. That's it. Making something more complicated to help your argument or to try and change the subject is stupid..

If I was wrong about the f2p model like some suggest it still doesn't take away the fact that the article was hijacked and more xbox live bashing continued for no reason whatsoever. The very subject the thread was about in the first place.

2 of 3 of the quotes in the OP are critizising the game for it's advertised "free to play" status and I doubt there is "bashing" involved there, especially because Micheal-5 is a known 360 supporter.

the second one is "bashing", I give you that

I think you need to differentiate better between what is legitimate critique and what is "bashing" and react accordingly (critique -> start a friendly/level-headed discussion; bashing -> ignore it/report it/send a pm to ask the user to stop doing that).

Lol, call my thread stupid but still comment on it? I left becasue I have a life. Your reply was from a couple of hours ago and it still says you're online....

flamebait yet again! Why does this always keep coming?

If anything wouldn't this be a response thread to flame-bait?

I say, just let them have their little moment of superiority. They don't know any better. I had one going off this weekend, how they get 'free games' and discounts!

I didn't have the heart to break their little superior bubble and explain that yes, we have all those entertainment/video/music apps, plus many discounts, and we get free games, and they are even new ones!

Its sort of like a toothless dog growling aggressively - look bewildered, and just walk on by.

PS This was shortly after others were lecturing me their PS2 could play Blu-ray. I just said, "oh really? cool." and handed them a blu-ray.

No PS+ games aren't free.

So 65 games/year for 50$/year

So 50/65 = 0,77$
Not counting the 15 instantly games

I can play Sleeping Dogs (game that I didn't want to play) for 0,77$, that's pretty cool.

1. Wat. How in the world can you say he is right? Aren't you the one who values Gold because it allows you to play online? And when PSN does it for free it's suddenly worth nothing?

No. Don't put words in someones mouth where you are not allowed to.

2. Just a few days ago I saw a news article about an 1.92GB BF3 patch for...360. What is this bullshit about gigantic patches on PS3 and not 360? No cumulative patches, what does that mean?

Picking one example doesn't falsify my initial statement: patches are mostly bigger on PSN than on XBL. To make you learn about bullshit: Don't call something bullshit if you don't know what you are talking about. For yor reading pleasure: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495721&highlight=  Highlights in here: Gran Turismo 5 and Little Big Planet.

And if you don't know what cumulative patches mean, this is only your problem.

3. Download speed can depend on a lot of things. I know it maxed my speed out. Never had an issue there.

And this is exactly what I meant with " answers saying "but my psn-download is fast" doesn't help the people where it is not."

I know that download-speed can depend on many things, most probably better than you ever will. This does *not* help people who own both consoles and where PSN *is* slower than XBL.

dude-please don't argue like an idiot.

therefore please don't missinterpretate me again in a wrong way just to have a reason to construct a thread

I haven't wrote a thing about free or not free,nothing about ps+ nor xbox live.
I just wondered how and why a lousy game with a metacritic 61 average could be downloaded 2 million times.
there are dozens of (browser/f2p) games outthere that are better than this and have deserved more attention ,and they are not downloaded so many times like this crap.2 millions is an amazing numbeR for a game knowone knew and knowone was interessted in just a few month ago-maybe you like trash?all right.
And i still wonder about the success as there was no huge marketing campaign or so.

btw-by making the multiplayer unplayable for people who don't have xbox live gold this game is more of a bait/catchpenny(buy either the game or xbox live gold to get full access)than a free game.