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ninjablade on 12 March 2013
GamersAreTrash said:
I'll try not to jump to conclusions, since I know that a console environment isn't the same as the PC environment, which has a bloated OS that makes it difficult to maximize hardware potential.
I just hope SONY's engineers know what the hell they're doing. After the $599 price-point and the CELL disaster, it's hard for me to have faith in SONY.


all they did was make a mistake in pricing, no reason to lose faith, they gave great third party and first party support.



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GamersAreTrash on 12 March 2013
ninjablade said:
GamersAreTrash said:
I'll try not to jump to conclusions, since I know that a console environment isn't the same as the PC environment, which has a bloated OS that makes it difficult to maximize hardware potential.
I just hope SONY's engineers know what the hell they're doing. After the $599 price-point and the CELL disaster, it's hard for me to have faith in SONY.


all they did was make a mistake in pricing, no reason to lose faith, they gave great third party and first party support.


God I hope so. As much as I like Microsoft, the gaming business is one area where I'd like to see them lose. 



Cobretti2 on 12 March 2013
ninjablade said:
Cobretti2 said:
Don't forget, not all that RAM will go to gaming. All that share stuff they put into the console probably uses a good deal when live storing the latest 15mins of your game play.


that's true, i'm happy with the ps4 specs, but i won't pay more then 399$ or i guess i will have to wait.


well a generation is a marathon not a race so personally I will wait no matter what the price as my original PS3 was dead on arrival lol.

With this increase in tech I have no doubt some bugs will need to be ironed out. Then I will buy the console.

 

Just as a comparission. In AUS PS3 sold for $1000AUD. The place holder for PS4 is $900AUD. By pure numbers it looks cheaper, however back when PS3 was released when our dollar was worth about 70cents USD, now our dolloar is slighlt worth more than the USD or parity.

I am hoping that the $900 place holder is an indicator it will be cheaper.



 

 

Andrespetmonkey on 12 March 2013
ninjablade said:
Hynad said:

I doubt that 8GB of GDDR5 is in any way comparable to the PS3's CELL + BluRay costs.


i'm just thinking is the 4gb of ram worth it, will many games actually use it, they could have went with a much better gpu instead of the 4gb but as some one said i guess it was too late, here is the price estamation for ps4 parts from beyond3d.

 

PU (CPU/GPU) - 85-90
8GB GDDR5 - 110-140
OS Chip (supposedly ARM based) - 12-18
Video encode/decode chip - 8-12
Blu-ray drive - 18-25
Hard drive - 38-50
I/O - 9-12
Wireless chip + antenna - 4
HDMI+HDCP - 11-15
Other - 25-35

Total - 320-401

The PSV components cost $160, yet it broke even at $250. So including all the other associated costs the PS4 should cost Sony about $500 each. 



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scottie on 12 March 2013
Corey said:
Devs seem to love it so I'd say it's the right move.


Devs don't have to pay for the extra ram.

 

On topic - it seems like 8 is unneccessary considering the rest of the PS4, and 4 is too little.



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Andrespetmonkey on 12 March 2013
scottie said:
Corey said:
Devs seem to love it so I'd say it's the right move.


Devs don't have to pay for the extra ram.

 

On topic - it seems like 8 is unneccessary considering the rest of the PS4, and 4 is too little.

If 4 is too little, you may as well go for the 8 no?

It might turn out to be a little unncessesary, but with all these OS/Social features running simultaneously and all the RAM complaints from devs this gen, I think it's the right choice. 



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Andrespetmonkey on 12 March 2013
GamersAreTrash said:
I'll try not to jump to conclusions, since I know that a console environment isn't the same as the PC environment, which has a bloated OS that makes it difficult to maximize hardware potential.
I just hope SONY's engineers know what the hell they're doing. After the $599 price-point and the CELL disaster, it's hard for me to have faith in SONY.

PS3 cost around $800 to manufacture at launch, PS4 will cost around $500. That alone tells me the max price of the console will be 499, and we'll probably see $399 at launch for the cheaper sku.



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curl-6 on 12 March 2013
Andrespetmonkey said:
ninjablade said:
Hynad said:

I doubt that 8GB of GDDR5 is in any way comparable to the PS3's CELL + BluRay costs.


i'm just thinking is the 4gb of ram worth it, will many games actually use it, they could have went with a much better gpu instead of the 4gb but as some one said i guess it was too late, here is the price estamation for ps4 parts from beyond3d.

 

PU (CPU/GPU) - 85-90
8GB GDDR5 - 110-140
OS Chip (supposedly ARM based) - 12-18
Video encode/decode chip - 8-12
Blu-ray drive - 18-25
Hard drive - 38-50
I/O - 9-12
Wireless chip + antenna - 4
HDMI+HDCP - 11-15
Other - 25-35

Total - 320-401

The PSV components cost $160, yet it broke even at $250. So including all the other associated costs the PS4 should cost Sony about $500 each. 

Yeah, a console costs more than just the sum of its parts.

As much as I'd like PS4 to be $400USD or less, I expect it to be $450-500.



Zappykins on 12 March 2013

That is an very interesting question. Seems like a better GPU and less RAM might have been a better choice. I wonder if they boosted the RAM right be fore the reveal for reasons we don't know yet (And because it was the only thing they could easily change.)



 

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mjk45 on 12 March 2013
ninjablade said:

i'm not really sure but i keep hearing how expensive the ultra fast ram is, so i started thinking wouldn't it be cheaper if had they gone with a 2.5 gflops GPU and 4gb gddr5, wouldn't that make the system cheaper and give it better graphics, i just don't see how they could use the 8gb or even 4gb, the budget for the game would be insane.

the thing is where not talking your usual  CPU and GPU setup The APU needs bandwith much more than a cpu /gpu setup and since it will use HSA  to offset  known problems with unified  ram of that type it won't be a problem  as to the cost obviously they had enough  budget info to do it and it seems they have a supply solution , even though it is expensive now it's coming down also that expense has a lot to do with how it's been used up to now , so the sheer scale of the project should drop the margins quite significantly .



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