I can see what you mean by fluid. Movement just felt smooth and natural, but I guess that's what really gives it away as CGI; no FPS I've played has mechanics that smooth.

I know this vid it looks awesome but my point still stands   Its not guaranteed to be the game graphics. I also know that there is screenshots out there (like the one where the player lands on the border and this gunship shows up) that look sharper without motion blur. This cannot be a direct feed screenshot from the same build that was shown at the Sony presentation since the engine has motion blur and no matter how often you play the same scene there will always be this motion blur because its an ingame cutscene .

Again I am not saying that the game looks worse than the footage we see I just say that people should believe their own eyes before they say something is FACT.  I actually never said the game looks worse than the videos at all  :) I just said its not 100% quaranteed to be ingame footage which is true. But people argue that anyways lol.

I question most of Sony's stories/etc  after what happened to the "all games 1080p/60fps 2 HDMI-port Playstation 3" and I think thats somewhat understandable  and there is a WindWaker WiiU mockup video where the guy tried to sync his hands movements to the video that was shown on his gamepad and it worked 70% of the time but its okay since the guy/girl is no professional.

So even if they show Jimmy holding a controller so far away from the camera that I cannot really see what he is doing and  where he randomly presses buttons it can still be a timed "show" for the audience where Jimmy knew when it was his turn to take the controller and act like he was playing it even tho it was a video. I am not saying that this happened but that this is a possibility.

So again its not proven to be ingame graphics. Since the game is not out. And that was the whole point of my comment  IT IS NOT 100% proven and I dont get why people try to argue that because I did not say something wrong I actually said something that is factual.

Btw here is the WindWaker Mockup Video.



I know that this is somewhat of a stupid comment but as said before  I never argued that the game looks great or anything I just said it is not 100% sure to be ingame graphics and my "conclusion" is based on facts whereas saying "its is 100% ingame graphics" is not.

Sorry for derailing but I had to tell you guys what I ment because you clearly misunderstood.

P.S. I wonder how the 2005 CGI trailer would have looked like when they would have had the effects todays games (like BF3 or Crysis 3) have. I mean Crysis1 on PC also looks great but it lacks the visual punch of modern games. Sure Crysis 1 has better geometry etc  but its just missing something.

So the point you're trying to make is that with every game thats ever been released we shouldn't believe gameplay vids to be in-game graphics until we're playing it in our homes. 

.... I Can't even begin.

Just stop.

That's completely not true. KZ2 CG clearly is the winner here. The CG lacks colors and the video quality is bad. But the polygons, intelligence, and overall feel of the CG is far ahead of KZ: Shadow Fall.

Nope!
You dont get it ....  You can believe what you want.  I just said  that people should stop to desperately convince others and to say that something (they think) is FACT when they are not able to know it for sure.  Nothing else. 
People can believe what they want  but they should stop saying something is either A or B  when they dont even know whats going on because thats simply being arrogant. 

Another example is this. 
360 is stronger than WiiU ITS A FACT!
PS3 is stronger than 360   ITS A FACT!

Oh really? lol... Most of this crap comes from people that dont even own the console they bash so they must be experts with glass balls  :) This is just trolling and f*ckes up the gaming community.

My stupid examples should just show that the gaming industry is also lying etc.  I mean even the Sony dude at the Jimmy show said "its a touchscreen"  to bad its a touchpad but whatever....

So again  believe what you want but stop saying something is FACT when you have no evidence. Just look how many "experts" got burned with the KZ2 trailer.

I am not sure if you can call this  intelligence since its a video  but  I know what you mean. I also think the visuals of the KZ2 video are better but  its less colorful and has less "modern day" effects (fancy lighting and reflections etc)  than the KZ SF trailers.  But well its 8 years old so its no wonder.

Yeah KZ2 the animations and FLUID gameplay are AMAZING and turth be told still has not been done on any game yet. But the textures and lighting on Shadow fall are indeed better. So I guess they both have their merits it just depends on what you are looking at.

The smoke in the KZ2 demo is pretty untouchable in present day gaming as well.

Lighting is harder to compare to Shadowfall in my view, because they're so utterly different in approach; the KZ2 video being very low key and Shadowfall being very flashy and shiny.