Linkzmax said:
happydolphin said:
Linkzmax said:
Bong, that was directed at happy. Since before you, nen was the only one I mentioned being suspicious of. So if I believe you are a threat due to your deductive skills, it would suggest I don't want you going after nen. Further, that would mean I was bussing my scummate, which is not beyond me, yet totally completely unneeded when the FF train could be the spotlight. Ahhh, but what if FF is scum too you say? Well then sacrificing him serves the same purpose as bussing nen. |
Why would it suggest that, in what way? Do I or he think that nen is scum? Why do you say this? So the bussing theory is not working for me.
(@bong. bussing means "throwing your teammate under the bus". There's another use of the term, but it's actually an incorrect one which is used instead of bus-driving a player, which is playing the night action of a bus driver, but that's for later.)
This is all just fabulative reasoning that was pulled out of a mafia's arse so as to throw you off by some kind of far-fetched knowledge that really if you pay attention is really just thin air.
Bottom line, when did I or Bong suspect you and nen to be scumbuddies?
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Well if nen is a townie, then I'd be perfectly fine with his mislynch, no? You're not paying attention are you, Bong has said several times(including very recently) that he suspects nen. I don't care what you think, since the issue is about you saying I think Bong is the threat.
Neither of you mentioned it. I asked you specifically and you said you aren't sure yet. It is quite obvious that you didn't think through either case.
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@underline. You're using Bong's initial reads on nen as a greater factor than his sheer deduction skills. Yet you know full well that early reads can change quickly (like my game 50 clearly showed, you were initially in my town list) and that deductive reasoning doesn't just vanish.
You'd like me to think about a you+nen scumteam though, it would seem, because nen is an easy scapegoat. He looks evil for some reason because he casts a lot of suspicion in a menacing way, so I think you're trying to play on that so I link my main suspicion of you with him. Rather I had suspicions over you and Seth at that point where I was mentioning that Bong was a threat to you (and you flipped that around to talk about a you and nen scumteam). That's when I answered that I wasn't concerned with a you+nen scumteam at that moment but with a you+seth scumteam. You wanted attention away from that and diverted that suspicion a few times with a logic based on Bong's early scumreads (which are immaterial).
The you+seth thing isn't just an early read, we may actually have a case.
Bong Lover said:
Linkzmax said:
Bong, that was directed at happy. Since before you, nen was the only one I mentioned being suspicious of. So if I believe you are a threat due to your deductive skills, it would suggest I don't want you going after nen. Further, that would mean I was bussing my scummate, which is not beyond me, yet totally completely unneeded when the FF train could be the spotlight. Ahhh, but what if FF is scum too you say? Well then sacrificing him serves the same purpose as bussing nen. |
I don't remember you claiming nen as scum, you obviously must have since lying about it would be lunacy, but I can't remember it. I guess it might be a good idea to keep notes in this game...
Still, it did bring up the concept of bussing, which is yet another important concept to understand. Obviously, if HappyD is correct in his read that you feel some heat from the case that I have built around my suspicion of nen it could be good strategy for you if you are scum to be on record early with suspicion against nen if he looks to be a lynch target anyway.
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That, and it could be that he's simply trying to divert the issue of how you're a threat to him as compared to seth by bringing your suspicion of nen in the picture, which are two quite unrelated factors when all is said and done (looking at the big picture).
But even though I shouldn't, I'll indulge him for a second. I think what he's saying is that, if nen was not his scummate, then he wouldn't be threatened by you because your main lead till that point was nen. The problem with that is that you mentioned yourself that you weren't absolutely confident about your suspicions of nen and it was only a very early read, so it's disengenuous to use that suspicion to take away from the Seth+Linkz case, which we were on, and look at where we are now.
Just a few pages up we had SethNintendo in the bag (I'm shamelessly copying FF's style here):
01. I vote Seth
02. Stefl agrees.
03. Seth, just after some show suspicion, tries to get on our good side ("we are good liars").
04. You start to get paranoid of Seth.
05. Seth decides to make a reads list to quell suspicion (seems like a coached move but could just legitimately be a response to Stefl's request).
06. Linkz randomly states that Seth is town.
07. We both are suspicious of that move that move.
08. He gives some kind of lame reason as to why he thinks so. Apparently scum can't make bad moves because they can be coached.
nen-suer said:
Last few pages I give :
Town points for Mario, Linkz, HappyD and Rol
Scum points to spurg, Zero and FF.
Still not sure about Linkz tho.
He's a slow starter as scum, but once he gets going he's a hard nut to crack.
Its always about first impressions when it comes to Linkz.
Also where is stefl ? |
This! I am pretty confident we have something with Linkz, we just need to push it and not let him get the higher ground as scum because if that happens he will manipulate the whole game, he has that ability.
