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Is the next Xbox going to be released in Japan

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scottie on 05 March 2013
fauzman said:
scottie said:
fauzman said:
scottie said:
Why would it not? the 360 sold 1.6 million in Japan.

The 360 released in New Zealand, which is in a remote section of the world and has a human population of about twice that of the xbox360 population in Japan. Shipping the consoles to Japan will not be an issue.

The 360 was released in the UAE, which has a human population about 5 times that of the 360 population of Japan. If 20% of UAE own 360s (1 for every family of 5), it would only have sold as many as Japan, so shipping to non English speaking countries for 1.5 million consoles is fine.

360 sales in Japan are not actually low, it's just that other console sales in Japan are ridiculously high.

Why thank you for mentioning our humble little nation. However your perceptions of NZ and how xbox supports this are flawed. NZ isnt a big market but AUSTRALIA is which of course MS does want to do well in. And since NZ is right next door it is very easy for MS (and other console makers) to ship their products across to us for very little cost. It would be an entirely different situation if NZ were on their lonesome with no other developed country nearby (that would be likely to buy consoles). 


Well, thank you for mentioning MY humble little nation.

 

It might interest you to note that almost all good shipped to Australia are shipped via Japan, and that almost all goods shipped to America from Asia are shipped via Japan.

http://qed.princeton.edu/images/d/d2/World_Transportation_Patterns.jpg

 

 

Hell, Nintendo sold 4.77 million copies of the Gamecube in the entire of the world excluding the Americas and Japan (Europea, Middle East, Africa, Asia, Aus, NZ). You can bet that less than 1.6 million of them went to Aus/NZ. Why did the Wii ship to Australia?

 

The 720 will ship to Japan, not doing so would be idiotic.

I had thought a number of console makersand game publishers actually manufactured games and consoles in Aus? Im pretty sure thats the case in some instances. 

Still you may be right. I find it hard to believe they will try to win Japan asd hard as they tried this gen based on their lack of success. Though of course they made enough profit this gen to try this if they wanted to.


I very much doubt that is the case about Australian manufactured consoles/games.

 

I never said MS will be buying up timed exclusivity for Japanese games like they did this gen, but even if they made no effort in Japan, and still sold 500k consoles, that would be a financial success compared to not selling consoles there at all.



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fauzman on 05 March 2013
scottie said:
fauzman said:
scottie said:
fauzman said:
scottie said:
Why would it not? the 360 sold 1.6 million in Japan.

The 360 released in New Zealand, which is in a remote section of the world and has a human population of about twice that of the xbox360 population in Japan. Shipping the consoles to Japan will not be an issue.

The 360 was released in the UAE, which has a human population about 5 times that of the 360 population of Japan. If 20% of UAE own 360s (1 for every family of 5), it would only have sold as many as Japan, so shipping to non English speaking countries for 1.5 million consoles is fine.

360 sales in Japan are not actually low, it's just that other console sales in Japan are ridiculously high.

Why thank you for mentioning our humble little nation. However your perceptions of NZ and how xbox supports this are flawed. NZ isnt a big market but AUSTRALIA is which of course MS does want to do well in. And since NZ is right next door it is very easy for MS (and other console makers) to ship their products across to us for very little cost. It would be an entirely different situation if NZ were on their lonesome with no other developed country nearby (that would be likely to buy consoles). 


Well, thank you for mentioning MY humble little nation.

 

It might interest you to note that almost all good shipped to Australia are shipped via Japan, and that almost all goods shipped to America from Asia are shipped via Japan.

http://qed.princeton.edu/images/d/d2/World_Transportation_Patterns.jpg

 

 

Hell, Nintendo sold 4.77 million copies of the Gamecube in the entire of the world excluding the Americas and Japan (Europea, Middle East, Africa, Asia, Aus, NZ). You can bet that less than 1.6 million of them went to Aus/NZ. Why did the Wii ship to Australia?

 

The 720 will ship to Japan, not doing so would be idiotic.

I had thought a number of console makersand game publishers actually manufactured games and consoles in Aus? Im pretty sure thats the case in some instances. 

Still you may be right. I find it hard to believe they will try to win Japan asd hard as they tried this gen based on their lack of success. Though of course they made enough profit this gen to try this if they wanted to.


I very much doubt that is the case about Australian manufactured consoles/games.

 

I never said MS will be buying up timed exclusivity for Japanese games like they did this gen, but even if they made no effort in Japan, and still sold 500k consoles, that would be a financial success compared to not selling consoles there at all.

But that would all still cost money - transport, warehousing, advertising (even if minute). As with all products sold overseas they would have to make back a certain amount for it to be profitable. Would they make break even if they did NOT advertise or make an effort? I dont know. I suspect they will not try to win Japan over but they will make the xbox next available there just so that their competitors cant say that they gave up. 



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scottie on 05 March 2013

transporting, warehousing and advertising all apply to New Zealand too. The 360 sold better in Japan than it did in New Zealand, transporting will be more to New Zealand, as goods are transported from S-E Asia to Japan to Australia to NZ, as opposed to simply from SE Asia to Japan. Warehousing and advertising apply to both equally.

Why are we not asking if the 720 will be discontinued in New Zealand?



Devil_Survivor on 05 March 2013
Caniray said:
Devil_Survivor said:
The Xbox brand is actually much stronger in the other Asian countries, I live in South Korea and Xbox is stronger than Playstation here.

 

it'S NOT fair to say xbox brand is much stronger in other asian countries just because it's more popular in south korea 

 


I wasnt saying it was the more popular then the other consoles, just that its not as weak as in Japan were its a distant 3rd place. I was pointing out Korea because its very strong in there comparsion to Japan, even still its not first place, Wii is.



 

GuerrillaGamesX2 on 05 March 2013

Who cares if it releases in Japan. It will bomb. 100% likely lol.

Prove me wrong.



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mutantclown on 05 March 2013
scottie said:
mutantclown said:
scottie said:
Why would it not? the 360 sold 1.6 million in Japan.

The 360 released in New Zealand, which is in a remote section of the world and has a human population of about twice that of the xbox360 population in Japan. Shipping the consoles to Japan will not be an issue.

The 360 was released in the UAE, which has a human population about 5 times that of the 360 population of Japan. If 20% of UAE own 360s (1 for every family of 5), it would only have sold as many as Japan, so shipping to non English speaking countries for 1.5 million consoles is fine.

360 sales in Japan are not actually low, it's just that other console sales in Japan are ridiculously high.

1.6 million in 7 years? you must be joking.


1.26%  of the World's population

2.1% of the World's Xbox360s.

 

Read carefully, I'm not going to be able to explain it more simply.

 

360 sales in Japan are not actually low (for a country of Japan's population), it's just that other console sales in Japan are ridiculously high. Consequently, MS has no more reason to pull out of Japan than any of the big 3 have to pull out of Eastern Europe, Russia, Middle East, New Zealand, Australia, any of Asia.

 

It's quite simple

360 has sold more in Japan than PS3 has in Russia

PS4 will launch in Russia

Therefore, 720 will launch in Japan.

It doesn't work that way. I seriously don't think MS or Sony shipped as many consoles to Russian retailers as they did for Japan, nor were their marketing efforts (budget, money spent) equal for both regions. Not to mention software sales failure.



Turkish on 05 March 2013

Yes, but they shouldn't, focus on other markets.



Screamapillar on 05 March 2013

I mean, they don't need to, at all. But if they can gleam a few million dollars per year from meager hardware/software sales, why not?

I don't expect any JRPG exclusives this time around, though. That strategy did not work with 360 at all.



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GuerrillaGamesX2 on 05 March 2013
Screamapillar said:
I mean, they don't need to, at all. But if they can gleam a few million dollars per year from meager hardware/software sales, why not?

I don't expect any JRPG exclusives this time around, though. That strategy did not work with 360 at all.


That's when you know you're in trouble. You go out of your way to secure exclusive Japanese RPG titles, and it still bombs... At this point ms has to know it's useless.



gooch_destroyer on 06 March 2013

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