You know its really becoming harder to tell in this thread XD

Killzone: Shadow Fall blog:  The Black Hand

http://www.killzone.com/kz3/en_US/blog/news/2013-09-04_kzsf-black-hand.html

In the Killzone: Shadow Fall universe, the Black Hand are an emerging threat from the Helghan Sector – a splinter faction of radicals and zealots. Fueled by their anger at the destruction of Helghan in Killzone 3, they’ve sworn revenge against the “hypocrites of Vekta”, who they believe preach peace and co-existence but practice violence and oppression.

To exact their revenge, the Black Hand are attempting to force a return to all-out war. This puts them at odds with the government of New Helghan, who seek to avoid another conflict that would inevitably end in mutually assured destruction. The Black Hand mostly recruit from disgruntled elements with the Helghan military – those furious that their leadership chose to shelter with the Vektans rather than obliterate them – and take refuge in the slums of New Helghan.

Unlike the Helghast army, the Black Hand are an irregular force, specializing in acts of violence and sabotage. They’re mainly equipped with makeshift gear and weapons – surplus from the Second Extrasolar War – but curiously also possess modern mil-spec gear such as top-of-the-line infiltration projectors. As Shadow Marshal Lucas Kellan, the Black Hand are one more threat you’ll need to deal with to prevent the destabilization of the entire planet.

Some GTA V details
http://www.behindgames.com/gta-v-new-details-revealed-50-bridges-game/

- they played the Xbox Version
- it looks like in the Trailers only with more aliasing
- no stuttering at all during the 3 hour playthrough
- every Officer and Police Car has its own search circle. In GTA4 there was only 1 big circle
- sprinting is like in IV
- normal walk is very slow which helps moving in buildings
- a car had a petrol track and when they did shoot at it, the car exploded
- checkpoints are set very well
- SUV handles way harder than a Sportscar
- Lamar works with Franklin Repo
- in one Mission they drove a Train themselfes ( hopefully in Free Roam too)
- Sniper can be upgraded with Thermo Scope which can be activated on the run
- they did fly under a bridge and a “1 out of 50″ bridges prompt did appear
- Health regens 50% only, you have to look for Health packs or eat something
- cutscenes work fluid. like when going in a marker there is no short balckscreen, instead the camera goes cinematic. same goes for the end of the cutscenes.

as in more jaggies or less?

Omg, September 17th can't come soon enough.

Not only that is awesome, but pretty inmmersive!

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IGN's #1 PS3 game

Full list here - http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/09/03/igns-top-25-playstation-3-games

I wanna add something to the OP, Pezus.

hmmmm maybe i should add stuff to the OP as well