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Forums - Microsoft - Michael Pachter "Next Xbox Might Cost More Than PS4"

 

Which will be the more expensive one?

PS4 87 34.94%
 
Nextbox 60 24.10%
 
Wii U 6 2.41%
 
Gaming PC 68 27.31%
 
My iProduct 27 10.84%
 
Total:248
coolguy on 26 February 2013

it might cost more then the ps4 i would laugh if this happens



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GameAnalyser on 26 February 2013

losses incurred? How is this question put so that I can come up with the right answer.



superchunk on 26 February 2013
GameAnalyser said:
losses incurred? How is this question put so that I can come up with the right answer.


Yes both will likely launch at a price where they are losing money for every hardware unit sold with the expectation that a few games sold will allow them to be profitable... or some other content.



Porcupine_I on 26 February 2013

if it does, it will probably look something like this:



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Proclus on 26 February 2013

They'll be both within $50 of each is my prediction either good end up higher



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Ledreppe on 26 February 2013
Lostplanet22 said:
The Wii U will sell only around 40 million lifetime;..Pachter..Yeah I listened to the show =p.


I think it will sell more than that, I'm more certain that all formats will be neck and neck though.

 

Oh, and all I have to say about Pachter is...

 



D-Joe on 26 February 2013
superchunk said:
drkohler said:
superchunk said:

PS4 simply has a dual camera. It is better cameras that previous pseye and of course two of them. That's about it. It won't have all the other tech to be as finite in 3D space as Kinect2. So Kinect2 will have a significant cost above the new PSEye.

How do you know what Kinect2 is? I really would like to know because I have not seen anything about how Kinect2 works. The only thing we know is that Primesense tehcnology is not in Kinect2.

My current suspicion is the following:

Sony has two 1280*800 (720?) cameras with parallax software to calculate body depth info  (and standard Move software to track the dildo).

MS has one hires 1920*1080 camera and one IR camera (500*400 something) with parallax software to calculate body depth (from the IR stream because that is room illumination neutral).

Both systems have roughly the same load on data transfer. MS has higher xy-resolution for face/body part recognition than Sony, while Sony has higher xy-resolution on the depth field.

Both systems cost the same, hardware wise, because it's just two cameras in the end.

Kinect2 has FAR better cameras than kinect1.
Kinect2 has enhanced microphones.
Kinect2 has far better tech to allow up to 6 (not 2) registerable players.
Kinect2 can be as finite as understanding finger movement, unlike Kinect1.
Kinect2 is an overall large upgrade to the original. The original still has a cost at retail of $100. Its parts are like at least half that in the $50 range.

There is no way it doesn't cost at least 2x more than the new PSeye which may have the same mic, but definitely doesn't have the same cameras or even the same number of cameras (2 vs 3) and additionaly none of the of the rest of the internal tech.

Additionally the hardware between the two is not the same.

Sony is using GDDR5 ram which costs a hell of a lot more thand DDR3.
Sony is also using a higher end GPU and will have a slight cost higher for that.
MS is using embedded ram which will likely make the GPU overall cost about the same.

However, in the end, Kinect2's cost is going to outstrip the cost of the GDDR5 ram and therefore its safe to assume nxbox cost of materials will be higher than Sony's.

 

Kinect1 only cost $56 beofre launch,how much it cost right now you think?

Kinect2 won't cost much like you want,and it won't expensive than PS4 if the hardware worst than PS4.

It's annoying people keep overestimating Kinect cost,especially MS will use their own tech because they acquired Canesta at late 2010.

And hell you even ignore PSeye and DS4 touch screen cost because Kinect2 will cost more than both then suddnely PSeye and DS4 touch screen cost just went down to $0.

Well,it's safe to assume everything you write just wanna make people think "blah blah blah Xbox will be expensive",even it's false mostly,anyway i guess if you reply me,it will keep "720 will cost more than PS4 because i said so" style,right?



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NobleTeam360 on 26 February 2013

Well I'm likely only going to have enough money to buy either the next xbox or ps4 at their respective launches. Which ever offers the best deal and launch games is the one I will be getting at launch.



JazzB1987 on 26 February 2013

JazzB1987: " Micheal Pachter MIGHT say the truth"

So what now? The USA might speak german as of tomorrow. Chinese people might grow caucasian eyes. Girls might grow d*cks. Dogs might meow.

might might might.... Mighty Morphing Power Rangers!


Saying stuff like  the next xbox might cost more than PS4 is so stupid. Its like saying  "I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WILL HAPPEN" Why say something at all then? If you say the next xbox might cost more you automatically say the next PS might cost more than the next xbox.  Its so useless....



MakeAmazing on 26 February 2013

I think Kinect 2 would be expensive, but i dont think it will outweigh the costs of GDDR5 memory... just because of the hassle of using it (i.e no one is using it as main memory etc). So i would be very surprised if the PS4 is cheaper.