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Forums - Sales - January 2013 NPD Thread - 360: 281k, Wii U: 57k, PSV: 35k

ethomaz said:
Adinnieken said:
The Xbox 360 sales represented 48% 44% of the total sales.

Which means, the Wii and PS3 accounted for 249k 300k units (357k if you put Wii U)

Fixed.

No, broken in a way only you can.  As confirmed by Aaron Greenburg, the 281K units sold by Microsoft represents 48% of the sales of home consoles. 



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Scisca said:
Kynes said:
Scisca said:
The DS result is something other manufacturers should go for :) Sell more than you make - way to cut manufacturing costs!

Still, the undertracking of the year has to go to Diablo 3. It's at 3 million, while Activision has recently said it sold 12 million. I think this is humiliating this whole site...


Do you know that digital downloads is a huge market for PC games? I have ~200 games on Steam, and no one is a retail purchase.

Are you trying to tell me that they sold 3 million in retail and 9 million digitally? The games you have are most probably mainly from some ridiculous Steam sales, aren't they? I can't recall Diablo 3 getting any such sale. So no, this number is terribly wrong, is a disgrace to this service and should be corrected. Moreover, if the publisher officially gives us the number of copies sold, they should listen to them and correct the numbers... I think the publishers know better.

VGChartz only tracks retail sales, do you understand that? IoI won't change the Diablo III sales to 12 millions. It's the same with X360 digital download bundled games, IoI won't add them even knowing the game sales (p.e. Alan Wake) because that's this website philosophy. It's not his problem if you don't like it.



TheSource said:
benao87 said:
Those are some impressive X360 numbers.

Are people really surprised about WiiU's numbers, next month is going to be worse, wondering if they are going to be equally hysteric.

I don't think Nintendo should be overly worried, they are aware of the situation. They can be incompetent but the picture is crystal clear. They shouldn't rush things, they may have lost the potential to strike hard and first, but they are still selling 50k more than nextbox , and PS4 (in North America). 3DS is a good asset, and I think it's quite prudent to further establish it first than the WiiU.


All the numbers are amazingly bad. NPD had a leap January this year (normally, they have a 4-4-5 quarterly schedule * 4, this year its 5-4-5 in Q1 2013 to catch up for seven 364 day years rather than seven 365 day years).

It's 281,000 divided by five for X360, 55,000 divided by five for Wii U etc etc. So on a weekly basis X360 dropped to 56,500 from 67,500 in January 2012 to January 2013. The payroll tax will probably hurt disposable income this year too.


And should it perform better? It's like PSV fans saying that it 'deserves' more sales. The thing did not wow the market a la Wii, that's evident, and there is little or no reason to get one yet. It'll probably be a slow year, hopefully for Nintendo it's not going to keep diving, and with those minor releases in the horizon it will sell more. Then again, Nintendo should not panic, they can't keep rushing things. Further establish 3DS is a good estrategy, besides I think they may be sacrificing Q4, to have a better FY.



Adinnieken said:
ethomaz said:
Adinnieken said:
The Xbox 360 sales represented 48% 44% of the total sales.

Which means, the Wii and PS3 accounted for 249k 300k units (357k if you put Wii U)

Fixed.

No, broken in a way only you can.  As confirmed by Aaron Greenburg, the 281K units sold by Microsoft represents 48% of the sales of home consoles. 

Don't be so condescending. Aaron Greenberg posted that tweet like 4 hours ago. Yesterday they said 44%.



Scisca said:
Kynes said:


Do you know that digital downloads is a huge market for PC games? I have ~200 games on Steam, and no one is a retail purchase.

Are you trying to tell me that they sold 3 million in retail and 9 million digitally? The games you have are most probably mainly from some ridiculous Steam sales, aren't they? I can't recall Diablo 3 getting any such sale. So no, this number is terribly wrong, is a disgrace to this service and should be corrected. Moreover, if the publisher officially gives us the number of copies sold, they should listen to them and correct the numbers... I think the publishers know better.

Eh Blizzard has it's own digital store. Pretty obvious that games from Valve, Blizzard and EA have even more digital sales as other third party games on their own services.

Also I think I've read somewhere that the 12m numbers includes a few hundred k units that were free for people who own some Blizzard products or something like that. Can't remember for what you would get it for free.
Also the game has a free starter edition. Maybe they counted those as well.
On retail we know that the first weeks and months were certainly not undertracked in the US. Also it was gone in most European charts after ~2 months. Let's not forget that it came out in May, so the game didn't need amazing legs to chart during the following months.



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Barozi said:
Scisca said:
Kynes said:


Do you know that digital downloads is a huge market for PC games? I have ~200 games on Steam, and no one is a retail purchase.

Are you trying to tell me that they sold 3 million in retail and 9 million digitally? The games you have are most probably mainly from some ridiculous Steam sales, aren't they? I can't recall Diablo 3 getting any such sale. So no, this number is terribly wrong, is a disgrace to this service and should be corrected. Moreover, if the publisher officially gives us the number of copies sold, they should listen to them and correct the numbers... I think the publishers know better.

Eh Blizzard has it's own digital store. Pretty obvious thatgames from Valve, Blizzard and EA have even more digital sales as other third party games on these services.

Also I think I've read somewhere that the 12m numbers includes a few hundred k units that were free for people who own some Blizzard products or something like that. Can't remember for what you would get it for free.
Also the game has a free starter edition. Maybe they counted those as well.
On retail we know that the first weeks and months were certainly not undertracked in the US. Also it was gone in most European charts after ~2 months.


WoW. If you paid a 12 months subscription, you got Diablo III for free. 1.2 million of those copies were obtained this way.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/05/23/diablo-iii-crushes-pc-sales-records.aspx

If you're playing Diablo III, you're definitely not alone. According to Activision Blizzard, the action-RPG has broken day-one PC sales records, selling more than 3.5 million copies of the game in 24 hours. And that's just the beginning.

When you include players who got the game as part of the World of Warcraft annual pass, that number jumps to 4.7 million players worldwide on the game's first day. Diablo III has sold more than 6.3 million copies in its first week.



Boutros said:
Adinnieken said:
ethomaz said:
Adinnieken said:
The Xbox 360 sales represented 48% 44% of the total sales.

Which means, the Wii and PS3 accounted for 249k 300k units (357k if you put Wii U)

Fixed.

No, broken in a way only you can.  As confirmed by Aaron Greenburg, the 281K units sold by Microsoft represents 48% of the sales of home consoles. 

Don't be so condescending. Aaron Greenberg posted that tweet like 4 hours ago. Yesterday they said 44%.

No they didn't.  Neither Larry Nelson nor Aaron Greenberg posted that the Xbox 360 was 44% of the sales.

44% is a number ethomaz derived by taking the 305 (53%) that was already mentioned and adding 52K to it to (incorrectly) make up for the difference of the Wii U.  However, the Wii U is already a part of the 305, which is where ethomaz' error is.    No one, except ethomaz mentioned 44%.  

Next time try to get your facts right. 





ethomaz said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Adinnieken said:
The Xbox 360 sales represented 48% of the total sales.

Which means, the Wii and PS3 accounted for 249k units.


If Wii and PS3 = 52% then how do the numbers you come up with 249<281. the numbers you provide means 53% 360 share.

281k is 48% of 586 which means 305 for wii ps3

It's 44% for 360... Wii U + Wii + PS3 = 357k.

I'm pretty sure that 357K doesn't include the Wii U, as MS specifically stated "current gen" home console.



Adinnieken said:

No they didn't.  Neither Larry Nelson nor Aaron Greenberg posted that the Xbox 360 was 44% of the sales.

44% is a number ethomaz derived by taking the 305 (53%) that was already mentioned and adding 52K to it to (incorrectly) make up for the difference of the Wii U.  However, the Wii U is already a part of the 305, which is where ethomaz' error is.    No one, except ethomaz mentioned 44%.  

Next time try to get your facts right. 



You're right.  No one mentioned 44%.  Well, except MS.  In their official press statement.

"Holding 44 percent share of current-generation console sales, Xbox 360 sold 281,000 units in January, maintaining the number-one console spot in the U.S. (Source: NPD Group, January 2013)" - Source

Maybe you should get your facts right before posting. 



thismeintiel said:
Adinnieken said:

No they didn't.  Neither Larry Nelson nor Aaron Greenberg posted that the Xbox 360 was 44% of the sales.

44% is a number ethomaz derived by taking the 305 (53%) that was already mentioned and adding 52K to it to (incorrectly) make up for the difference of the Wii U.  However, the Wii U is already a part of the 305, which is where ethomaz' error is.    No one, except ethomaz mentioned 44%.  

Next time try to get your facts right. 



You're right.  No one mentioned 44%.  Well, except MS.  In their official press statement.

"Holding 44 percent share of current-generation console sales, Xbox 360 sold 281,000 units in January, maintaining the number-one console spot in the U.S. (Source: NPD Group, January 2013)" - Source

Maybe you should get your facts right before posting. 

Fair enough. 

I was sourcing from Twitter, where neither Larry Hyrb nor Aaron Greenberg said it.  Didn't see an official press release.

My guess is that the 48% is a mistake then, and 44% is the official number.