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Forums - Sales - January 2013 NPD Thread - 360: 281k, Wii U: 57k, PSV: 35k

55k in a month is beyond terrible. Worse than Vita launch aligned, (with one more week!). And that is in Vita'a least favourable market and WiiU's most favourable.

Vita is dying quickly too, they must cut the price by $100 and cut the memory cards' price, and soon. Even then I don't think it'll ever sell well, but hopefully sustainable numbers...



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Troll_Whisperer said:
55k in a month is beyond terrible. Worse than Vita launch aligned, (with one more week!). And that is in Vita'a least favourable market and WiiU's most favourable.

Vita is dying quickly too, they must cut the price by $100 and cut the memory cards' price, and soon. Even then I don't think it'll ever sell well, but hopefully sustainable numbers...


Mr. Troll Whisperer, we could've used your skillz earlier in the thread.

Now they have bred. It's too late.



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Those are some impressive X360 numbers.

Are people really surprised about WiiU's numbers, next month is going to be worse, wondering if they are going to be equally hysteric.

I don't think Nintendo should be overly worried, they are aware of the situation. They can be incompetent but the picture is crystal clear. They shouldn't rush things, they may have lost the potential to strike hard and first, but they are still selling 50k more than nextbox , and PS4 (in North America). 3DS is a good asset, and I think it's quite prudent to further establish it first than the WiiU.



Wii Launch: 476,000 Units
January 2007: 436,000 Units

Xbox 360: 367,000 Units
January 2006: 231,000 Units

PS3 Launch: 197,000 Units
January 2007: 244,000 Units

WiiU Launch: 425,000 Units
January 2012: 55,000 Units

...So yeah, the WiiU ratio is abysmal. Unless Nintendo can pull a miracle, it will be the largest generational drop that Nintendo will ever suffer.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

this is what happens when you teach the public that you will drop price in response to sluggish sales....they stop buying.



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Somini said:
I asked this earlier, but people were posting so much and so fast that i think it went unnoticed :S

"So a recap; we have undertracked the 360 by 30k, the PS3 by 100k and overtracked the Wii and Wii U by 20k both?''

Does anyone know more about this so far?

Sounds about right, minus the Wii part.  The 360 was 281K at 44% of current gen consoles.  That leaves about 358K for PS3 and the Wii.  I would imagine we have the Wii undertracked by ~20K-40K, which would make it 100K-120K for the month.  That leaves ~238K-258K for the PS3.  So, 360 is undertracked by ~30K.  PS3 undertracked by ~90K-110K.  Both of which are up YOY.  The PS3 more so (last year, PS3 + Wii was only 281K.)

Edit: If we assume the PS3 sold 200K last year, then even with my lowest number, that would be an increase of at least 19% YOY.



I'm just still so shocked by this number for wiiU.
I plan to buy one fyi. I better help sooner than later it appears.



thismeintiel said:
Somini said:
I asked this earlier, but people were posting so much and so fast that i think it went unnoticed :S

"So a recap; we have undertracked the 360 by 30k, the PS3 by 100k and overtracked the Wii and Wii U by 20k both?''

Does anyone know more about this so far?

Sounds about right, minus the Wii part.  The 360 was 281K at 44% of current gen consoles.  That leaves about 358K for PS3 and the Wii.  I would imagine we have the Wii undertracked by ~20K-40K, which would make it 100K-120K for the month.  That leaves ~238K-258K for the PS3.  So, 360 is undertracked by ~30K.  PS3 undertracked by ~90K-110K.  Both of which are up YOY.  The PS3 more so (last year, PS3 + Wii was only 281K.)

Edit: If we assume the PS3 sold 200K last year, then even with my lowest number, that would be an increase of at least 19% YOY.

Thanks for clarifying man.

I wonder why there is such an increase for both the PS3 and 360 YOY so late in the generation. What is causing this? Is it a result of the Wii U not selling well?



No wonder shops are starting to pull the Vita off the shelves the numbers are even worse than Japans considering the US market is about 4 times the size of Japans, 7k a week average ouch.

WII U not to concerned yet I'll wait till some big games are released before I jump on the WII U doomed train with the rest of the idiots.



benao87 said:
Those are some impressive X360 numbers.

Are people really surprised about WiiU's numbers, next month is going to be worse, wondering if they are going to be equally hysteric.

I don't think Nintendo should be overly worried, they are aware of the situation. They can be incompetent but the picture is crystal clear. They shouldn't rush things, they may have lost the potential to strike hard and first, but they are still selling 50k more than nextbox , and PS4 (in North America). 3DS is a good asset, and I think it's quite prudent to further establish it first than the WiiU.


All the numbers are amazingly bad. NPD had a leap January this year (normally, they have a 4-4-5 quarterly schedule * 4, this year its 5-4-5 in Q1 2013 to catch up for seven 364 day years rather than seven 365 day years).

It's 281,000 divided by five for X360, 55,000 divided by five for Wii U etc etc. So on a weekly basis X360 dropped to 56,500 from 67,500 in January 2012 to January 2013. The payroll tax will probably hurt disposable income this year too.



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