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Forums - Sales - January 2013 NPD Thread - 360: 281k, Wii U: 57k, PSV: 35k

Turkish on 14 February 2013
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
this is exactly how the wii would have sold wothout all those casuals buying it. this is whats happening to the wii u.


Things are returning back to normality again for Nintendo on the console market.



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Turkish on 14 February 2013

"thekevindent ‏@TheKevinDent

Nintendo WiiU is officially the worst major console launch in the history of video games."

Holy crap, Saturn and Virtual Boy sold more!



forest-spirit on 14 February 2013

Wii U: 55k
Vita: 35k

No wonder Nintendo and Sony are so quiet...



JGarret on 14 February 2013
Turkish said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
this is exactly how the wii would have sold wothout all those casuals buying it. this is whats happening to the wii u.


Things are returning back to normality again for Nintendo on the console market.


No, selling worse than $599 PS3 'with no games', worse than the GC, worse than the Saturn...that´s not normal, that´s not 'returning to normality'.



VGKing on 14 February 2013

Is Wii U really the worst major console launch in the history of video games or is that guy exaggerating?



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Train wreck on 14 February 2013
VGKing said:
Is Wii U really the worst major console launch in the history of video games or is that guy exaggerating?

I guess he is talking on $ amount for the US according to NPD



MB1025 on 14 February 2013

Can we get something out of the way. How come the same few Sony fans keep posting Sony numbers or saying how good they did when we don;t even have the numbers. Like a few people said pages back that the Vita outsold the Wii U and now that is not the case. It happens from the same people all the time trying to pass of numbers that make up as fact.



noname2200 on 14 February 2013
JGarret said:
noname2200 said:
Yakuzaice said:
noname2200 said:
JGarret said:
What will Wii U numbers for February be like?

35k?

Four week month, right?

Eh, I say 40-45k.

Considering Fist of the North Star is the only release in February, and it won't have the holiday tail, I'd say that is optimistic.  If we scale VGC's weekly numbers to NPD's total we see 56% of the sales happened in the first two weeks.  The other 44% were pretty evenly split in the last three.  If we use the 55k, that means 24.2k in the last three weeks or less than 8.1k per week.  Even if that holds for February, we are only looking at 32.3k.

Good points. Still, color me an optimist!


Here´s a post from gaf I found interesting:

Now, just for a moment I think an exercise might be interesting:

Do we think this state of Wii U is purely going to be representative of the failings of Nintendo, or do you think PS4 and Xbox 720 might do the same? Might we be seeing the first true sign of what awaits the industry in a few months? Why or why not? 

I've always maintained I hate system launches and their "launch windows" because generally speaking we might get ONE good game at best and two mediocre ones, and then eleven-twenty atrocious ones followed by no games for 3-6 months. And I still suspect the same will be true of Xbox 720 and PS4. Games take a long time to develop, and there's generally never enough time to ensure your game is in a healthy state by the time devs got the final dev kits and modified their vision and content to make it on time. 

What type of games do we think Xbox 720 or PS4 might have to change the game in their own way? I certainly feel Sony is in a much better position in terms of game development than Nintendo is, given that they've put out tentacles all over the place this gen and have experience with it now. But I don't know if it'd be enough... because it's clearly probably going to launch at $399.99 along with Xbox 720, and that's a lot of money for people these days coupled with a terrible launch window and experiences they've already had before.


Just wondering what people might think of this

It raises some good questions, but I think it's being too pesismistic on the other two consoles. While I maintain that those machines are, in the long run, going to do more harm than good to videogames, they (likely) at least have a grasp on which consumer base they would like to target.

More importantly, they (likely) will receive the bulk of the third party support. I would be extremely surprised if the 2014 release schedule looks anywhere near as barren as the Wii U's 2013 does, for example, if for no other reason than the two companies will go out of their way to shout what games will come someday (contrast with Nintendo, who feels the need to hide this information away for reasons known only to itself). They also might be smart enough to not waste over a hundred dollars per unit on a feature that the market is largely indifferent towards. But don't quote me on that!



noname2200 on 14 February 2013
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
this is exactly how the wii would have sold wothout all those casuals buying it. this is whats happening to the wii u.

Thank you for that hard hitting, on-the-nose, and highly useful insight, Mr. Pachter.



Train wreck on 14 February 2013
noname2200 said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
this is exactly how the wii would have sold wothout all those casuals buying it. this is whats happening to the wii u.

Thank you for that hard hitting, on-the-nose, and highly useful insight, Mr. Pachter.

You are not adding anything either