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theprof00 on 25 February 2013
TruckOSaurus said:
theprof00 said:
the dream was about this comment by trucks about linkz soft claiming watcher tracker.

In the dream, trucks was in court, and a prosecutor was saying "you were the only person to question linkz' claim. you KNEW that hatmoza was likely the cop and that linkz was in a situation that even if he were a watcher/tracker could still be lynched for getting a cop killed". Trucks was just staring at the prosecutor gritting his teeth, and the prosecutor continued "you believed linkz was claiming an informative role like watcher. that means you had some inside information, because anyone else would have said lie detector, as this court believed from the statements. Yet you went along with lynching the cop over the words of a watcher.

anyway...like i said, it was very convincing, so I'm going to
unvote
vote: trucks

i believe this is the best lynch for today.

You've been having real bad dreams prof. Why would anyone conclude Lie Detector? As a Lie Detector, Linkz wouldn't get any information before Night 1 so he wouldn't have jumped at hatmoza for his cop claim. On the other hand, a watcher/tracker could conclude there was no cop , especially someone like Linkz who often leans on meta to figure things out.

Lie detector would also be considered meta to disprove a cop, and there are especially times when a lie detector can function during the day.



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theprof00 on 25 February 2013
zero129 said:
theprof00 said:
theprof00 said:
radishhead said:
I'm twice on your list :(

oops, oh well. lemme fix it:

zero - ?
trucks - flandre
radish - youmu
Linkz - marisa
mario - Kogasa
Prof - satori
ff - nazrin
DT -
Noc - ?
yoshiya - yuyuko
mdj - ?

 

I'd like the missing people to report their character names.

updated with ff - nazrin

Why does my name still have a question mark beside it? i posted who i was awhile ago lulz x_x .

Also have you got anything from them names as i know nothing about touhou??.

Well the only important thing I've learned is that not a single person realized that I changed my name.

Not much to conclude from that though other than scum aren't paying a whole lot of attention.



TruckOSaurus on 25 February 2013
theprof00 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

You've been having real bad dreams prof. Why would anyone conclude Lie Detector? As a Lie Detector, Linkz wouldn't get any information before Night 1 so he wouldn't have jumped at hatmoza for his cop claim. On the other hand, a watcher/tracker could conclude there was no cop , especially someone like Linkz who often leans on meta to figure things out.

Lie detector would also be considered meta to disprove a cop, and there are especially times when a lie detector can function during the day.

I've yet to encounter a Day-time Lie Detector but why does me not thinking of that eventuality make me scum?



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theprof00 on 25 February 2013
zero129 said:
Vote: Prof
Clearly now he has voted for someone other then linkz as he knows that if linkz flips town by getting lynched prof will be next as only 1 of them 2 can be town.(Imo prof knows linkz is town and thats why is trying to now stop his lynch).
It wont save you prof, you where so stuck up on lynching linkz till i started saying how you will be the target next
In fact id also be willing to lynch trucks if thats what people want, but trust me trucks turning up mafia would even make me more sure your mafia too and just using trucks with a plan to make you look town by lynching mafia! tell me im wrong .

You ARE wrong, especially since you already quoted me on one part of how you're wrong...one of my first posts where I said "linkz will be 99% the person we lynch depending on what others have to say". You quoted that and said "so sure of yourself". Yet that statement clearly says I will look at others. I've also said numerous times that I'm wary of lynching linkz, and in another post that you quoted, I said "I'm worried that the reason they didn't kill me or linkz was so that we could be the next two mislynches". You quoted that and called me scum. So yes, you ARE wrong when you say that I moved away from linkz out of fear about being lynched next.

Nothing you did has swayed my motivations. Also, I have at least 4 people telling you you're wrong about previous accusations, as well as myself saying you're wrong. Just face it...you're wrong

We can't ALL be mafia, but I'm willing to bet that there are a couple in there...yoshiya,trucks,mario,ff.. If you recall, they were also suspected by nacho and hatmoza.



theprof00 on 25 February 2013
zero129 said:

I dont think its only scum thats paying no attention to names in this thread i think its almost everyone as i didnt notice you changed your name and im pretty sure alot of other town members didnt too. It could be becos this round is based on such a small known game? anime? whatever it is that people that dont know about it has no real reason to care about the names. But someone like you who knows about it might of gained something by knowing the names.

Anyway why ask for all them names then get nothing from them and also change your own name??, did you give a false name in the first place and if so why??

Obviously town also is not paying attention, but they don't matter.

Scum tend to collect things. They collect activities and names and role possibilities etc and make lists so that they can keep their stories straight (regarding made up night roles and fake nameclaims). I had imagined that they would have written my name down when I gave it. I gave it directly to FF. I said "my name is Sunny Milk, what's yours?".

Then when I started posting the lists, I gave my actual name, "satori".

I gave a fake name originally because I was hoping to accidentally claim a name that scum had. I wanted to see if I'd be called out on it. I wasn't. So instead I tried a different angle- See if they were collecting names.



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theprof00 on 25 February 2013
TruckOSaurus said:
theprof00 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

You've been having real bad dreams prof. Why would anyone conclude Lie Detector? As a Lie Detector, Linkz wouldn't get any information before Night 1 so he wouldn't have jumped at hatmoza for his cop claim. On the other hand, a watcher/tracker could conclude there was no cop , especially someone like Linkz who often leans on meta to figure things out.

Lie detector would also be considered meta to disprove a cop, and there are especially times when a lie detector can function during the day.

I've yet to encounter a Day-time Lie Detector but why does me not thinking of that eventuality make me scum?

It's not that you didn't consider lie detector. It's that you considered him a watcher/tracker specifically, and still voted even though you've admitted that linkz relies on meta, and even used linkz' testimony as a reason to lynch.
Linkz being a watcher/tracker should never have given you reason for voting. That's bad play.

The only thing I thought linkz could be was a sibling or mason who actually knew who the cop was....or a lie detector, which is supposed to take the place of a cop. Watcher/tracker is in games with cops all the time.

TruckOSaurus 5 days ago
Final-Fan said:
Linkzmax said:
theprof00 said:
except hat's town flip will result in linkz' scum flip. Both have already agreed to that outcome..similarly, hat's scum flip will net us a scum.
Either way there is a scum  by lynching hat.

Well hat did with his crusade. I did no such thing, nor would I have said that my lynch/death should result in hat's lynch. I do understand the pitchforks and torches will be prepared for me if hat is town though.

Even if you don't roll over, you shouldn't expect to be able to be wrong and live, given the assurances that you've dangled in front of us without explanation.  The strongest case against hatmoza's cop claim is your "nuh-uh".  If you are less than extremely confident in that "nuh-uh" then I am much more likely to listen to the nagging doubt that has gained strength over hatmoza's last few contributions. 

Is your position that hatmoza is definitely not the cop more of what MDJ would call a "hunch"?  Or are you extremely confident? 

"Linkz's response to my question indicates he has a reason outside of "spurge/hat was acting scummy" to counter hat's claim.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5139643

That's what I wanted to know so I'm gonna vote:

Vote: hatmoza"

 

 



 



theprof00 on 25 February 2013

Similarly, I KNOW I was jailkept. I was placed in an unpenetrable prism.
I kept it vague though because I wanted to see how people would react to me being blocked.

For the sake of evidencing my reasons for being vague/lying about my name, I'll point out that I recapped night information about 4 times, and recapped the names list about half a dozen times.



Stefl1504 on 25 February 2013
  L-5 L-4 L-3 L-2 L-1 Lynch
linkzmax radish yoshiya MDJ DT    
noctis            
prof
         
yoshiya
         
truckosaurus prof zero        

MDJ votes linkz
prof votes noctis
F-F votes linkz
zero votes prof
prof unvotes noctis
zero unvotes prof
prof votes yoshiya
zero votes linkz
radish votes linkz
yoshiya votes linkz
MDJ unvotes linkz
MDJ votes linkz
zero unvotes linkz (try to keep votes in seperate lines :/)
DT votes linkz
F-F unvotes linkz
prof votes trucks
zero votes prof
zero votes trucks



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theprof00 on 25 February 2013

The other reason why the names thing is important, is because if mafia are not collecting names, then that confirms (to me at least, not withstanding that Reimu was a cop, and her touhou abilities don't match up at all) that names are meaningless.
That could mean that they would be very loose with providing name information....even ff didn't put up much of a fight, when he's typically one to do so.
I believe the first person to give his name was trucks.

I would consider ff's "why should I tell you about my name" and then quick turnaround to mean that he was only pretending to be suspicious.



TruckOSaurus on 25 February 2013
theprof00 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
theprof00 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

You've been having real bad dreams prof. Why would anyone conclude Lie Detector? As a Lie Detector, Linkz wouldn't get any information before Night 1 so he wouldn't have jumped at hatmoza for his cop claim. On the other hand, a watcher/tracker could conclude there was no cop , especially someone like Linkz who often leans on meta to figure things out.

Lie detector would also be considered meta to disprove a cop, and there are especially times when a lie detector can function during the day.

I've yet to encounter a Day-time Lie Detector but why does me not thinking of that eventuality make me scum?

It's not that you didn't consider lie detector. It's that you considered him a watcher/tracker specifically, and still voted even though you've admitted that linkz relies on meta, and even used linkz' testimony as a reason to lynch.
Linkz being a watcher/tracker should never have given you reason for voting. That's bad play.

The only thing I thought linkz could be was a sibling or mason who actually knew who the cop was....or a lie detector, which is supposed to take the place of a cop. Watcher/tracker is in games with cops all the time.

 

See, that's your analysis of the situation based on how you think. Personally, if I had been a watcher and a very suspicious spurge/hat suddenly claims cop (in a pretty small game), I would have thought "This guy is lying his ass off". I figured Linkz's reaction was spurred by something similar, I trusted him at that point, he gave me guarantees that he wasn't bluffing, how is my vote bad play?



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