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FinalEvangelion on 10 February 2013

On topic, I feel like all these gimmicky innovations from any company has thrown them off on what the main focus should be - games and content. That's something I feel like has taken a hit this generation. I do feel like whether it is the Wii-mote, Kinect, Move, and this new one - it's sold more on potential than delivery.

But I am with STAGE here. I remember he used to be quite the MS supporter. I like them when they were putting out a few JRPGs at the beginning of the generation - but they gave us the finger and dropped support overnight so next generation I'm probably just sticking with Sony and Nintendo unless MS comes with something I absolutely want to play. Since 2009, that's been absolutely nothing that I can't find on other platforms.

Sorry, just because the shareholders or executives make more money off of a game or by having less first party / second games doesn't mean I'm going to enjoy the platform more - especially if I don't see the money myself.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 10 February 2013
FinalEvangelion said:
On topic, I feel like all these gimmicky innovations from any company has thrown them off on what the main focus should be - games and content. That's something I feel like has taken a hit this generation. I do feel like whether it is the Wii-mote, Kinect, Move, and this new one - it's sold more on potential than delivery.

But I am with STAGE here. I remember he used to be quite the MS supporter. I like them when they were putting out a few JRPGs at the beginning of the generation - but they gave us the finger and dropped support overnight so next generation I'm probably just sticking with Sony and Nintendo unless MS comes with something I absolutely want to play. Since 2009, that's been absolutely nothing that I can't find on other platforms.

Sorry, just because the shareholders or executives make more money off of a game or by having less first party / second games doesn't mean I'm going to enjoy the platform more - especially if I don't see the money myself.


Thank you! At least someone who remembers that I used to support Microsoft when they focused on making games or acquiring large amounts of them! When games came secondary for them so did my support and the same goes for any company that lives by that methodology.



Mr Puggsly on 10 February 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
FinalEvangelion said:
On topic, I feel like all these gimmicky innovations from any company has thrown them off on what the main focus should be - games and content. That's something I feel like has taken a hit this generation. I do feel like whether it is the Wii-mote, Kinect, Move, and this new one - it's sold more on potential than delivery.

But I am with STAGE here. I remember he used to be quite the MS supporter. I like them when they were putting out a few JRPGs at the beginning of the generation - but they gave us the finger and dropped support overnight so next generation I'm probably just sticking with Sony and Nintendo unless MS comes with something I absolutely want to play. Since 2009, that's been absolutely nothing that I can't find on other platforms.

Sorry, just because the shareholders or executives make more money off of a game or by having less first party / second games doesn't mean I'm going to enjoy the platform more - especially if I don't see the money myself.


Thank you! At least someone who remembers that I used to support Microsoft when they focused on making games or acquiring large amounts of them! When games came secondary for them so did my support and the same goes for any company that lives by that methodology.

When they focused on making games? Did they stop making games? I know I recently played some great games called Forza Horizon and Halo 4. Maybe I imagined that?

Acquiring large amounts of them? Seriously man, how much time do you have on your hands? I work a full time job and have other shit to, I don't need a lot of games per se. Just some damn good ones to play on occasion, MS delivers that and so do 3rd parties. There isn't a dearth of quality titles to play on the 360.

We get it, you don't like MS's "methodology." Just go play your many, many 1st party Sony games and have fun. Don't waste your time with this crusade of convincing people MS doesn't care about games. A lot of us do enjoy what MS does and don't need this constant critiquing in MS threads.



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thismeintiel on 10 February 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Thank you! At least someone who remembers that I used to support Microsoft when they focused on making games or acquiring large amounts of them! When games came secondary for them so did my support and the same goes for any company that lives by that methodology.

When they focused on making games? Did they stop making games? I know I recently played some great games called Forza Horizon and Halo 4. Maybe I imagined that?

Acquiring large amounts of them? Seriously man, how much time do you have on your hands? I work a full time job and have other shit to, I don't need a lot of games per se. Just some damn good ones to play on occasion, MS delivers that and so do 3rd parties. There isn't a dearth of quality titles to play on the 360.

We get it, you don't like MS's "methodology." Just go play your many, many 1st party Sony games and have fun. Don't waste your time with this crusade of convincing people MS doesn't care about games. A lot of us do enjoy what MS does and don't need this constant critiquing in MS threads.

You're just mad that we turned STAGE to the dark side.  Don't worry, we're coming after you next gen.  MWAHAHAHAHAHA!

I may have said this earlier in the thread, can't really remember, but I don't think next gen is going to be decided by the casual crowd.  So any gimmick, whether it be from Sony, MS or Nintendo (theirs is already not paying off) is not really going to push HW sales much.  It's going to come down to games.  Personally, I'm betting on Sony, seeing how they didn't desert the core when their motion controller was released.  But, we shall see.



 

Mr Puggsly on 11 February 2013
thismeintiel said:

You're just mad that we turned STAGE to the dark side.  Don't worry, we're coming after you next gen.  MWAHAHAHAHAHA!

I may have said this earlier in the thread, can't really remember, but I don't think next gen is going to be decided by the casual crowd.  So any gimmick, whether it be from Sony, MS or Nintendo (theirs is already not paying off) is not really going to push HW sales much.  It's going to come down to games.  Personally, I'm betting on Sony, seeing how they didn't desert the core when their motion controller was released.  But, we shall see.

I think games and price of the console are of the utmost important. Playstation has a strong following, so as long as PS4 is reasoanbly priced it should be able to out perform the 720. But PS4 won't trounce the competition like PS1 and PS2 did. Those days are over.

It wasn't gimmicks that made the 360 a success. It was great games and price. The Kinect just gave it a boost. The next Kinect will also pull in the casual audience. Sony just doesn't have anything that casuals care about right now.

MS has noteworthy exclusives and new IPs coming. MS will probably keep some 3rd party exclusives like Gears and Alan Wake as well, we'll have to wait and see.



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MoHasanie on 11 February 2013
binary solo said:
Naming stuff has never really been microsoft's strong suit. "Onebox"? Doesn't give the consumer any idea of what the product is, so it's no better or worse than the equally meaningless Xbox, and Wii. At least with "playstation" the consumer has some idea what the product is.

But Xbox now has broad brand recognition, so changing to Onebox is as likely to confuse as anything. I think getting the "one" concept into the name is a good idea but staying with the known name "xbox" and adding to it would be easier for market recognition and uptake.

Illumiroom will have a niche audience only. I don't see the broad appeal for people having both a high quality TV and a 180 or 360 (irony?) degree projector and front and rear image capture. The simplicity of the single piece of equipment that is kinect is lost with illumiroom. Nifty tech, but very low market penetration, a bit like 80" 4K TV.

Any screen, any time. Now that is the killer app here and it will excite the general public. And it will demand a response from the competition.

I think the illumiroom has the potential to sell well cause its such a new thing. I was listening to the radio the other day, and they were talking about the PS4 and Nextbox, and even they were saying how amazing the illumiroom looks, and that Sony will really have to announce something very special if they want to out do the Nextbox. If MS incorporates the illumiroom thing into every game, it could really help sell many units of the Nextbox. 



    

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Jaywood2010 on 15 February 2013
MoHasanie said:
binary solo said:
Naming stuff has never really been microsoft's strong suit. "Onebox"? Doesn't give the consumer any idea of what the product is, so it's no better or worse than the equally meaningless Xbox, and Wii. At least with "playstation" the consumer has some idea what the product is.

But Xbox now has broad brand recognition, so changing to Onebox is as likely to confuse as anything. I think getting the "one" concept into the name is a good idea but staying with the known name "xbox" and adding to it would be easier for market recognition and uptake.

Illumiroom will have a niche audience only. I don't see the broad appeal for people having both a high quality TV and a 180 or 360 (irony?) degree projector and front and rear image capture. The simplicity of the single piece of equipment that is kinect is lost with illumiroom. Nifty tech, but very low market penetration, a bit like 80" 4K TV.

Any screen, any time. Now that is the killer app here and it will excite the general public. And it will demand a response from the competition.

I think the illumiroom has the potential to sell well cause its such a new thing. I was listening to the radio the other day, and they were talking about the PS4 and Nextbox, and even they were saying how amazing the illumiroom looks, and that Sony will really have to announce something very special if they want to out do the Nextbox. If MS incorporates the illumiroom thing into every game, it could really help sell many units of the Nextbox. 

The illumiroom actually does have a lot of potential>  Im curious to see if it needs walls cleared off or not though




       

sales2099 on 15 February 2013
Turkish said:
kitler53 said:
the simple fact MS has a plan that is 3 years out is why they are beating sony..


Yep, Sony is a company that lives from day to day with no long term plans at all.

I just figured they just tell their 1st party developers to make games based on their IPs with no actual concrete timetable to finish them lol



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 on 15 February 2013
JayWood2010 said:

Whats interesting for 2013 is the hardware: The only box you will need. This implies MS will partner with local TV providers to sell Xbox with TV functionality.

In Canada we have Rogers and Bell as our top TV/internet providers.......it would be amazing if you walked into a rogers store and saw a Xbox on sale beside the Iphones, because MS partnered with them to give the Xbox the Cable box treatment. Great way to boost sales in a totally non-gaming market!

Live - Mix and match services. This implies multiple tiers of Live, each with different levels of access. You essentially pay for the features you want, which could mean a lower price for Live if all you want is online gaming.

Very excited for what MS brings to the table!



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Jaywood2010 on 15 February 2013
sales2099 said:
JayWood2010 said:

Whats interesting for 2013 is the hardware: The only box you will need. This implies MS will partner with local TV providers to sell Xbox with TV functionality.

In Canada we have Rogers and Bell as our top TV/internet providers.......it would be amazing if you walked into a rogers store and saw a Xbox on sale beside the Iphones, because MS partnered with them to give the Xbox the Cable box treatment. Great way to boost sales in a totally non-gaming market!

Live - Mix and match services. This implies multiple tiers of Live, each with different levels of access. You essentially pay for the features you want, which could mean a lower price for Live if all you want is online gaming.

Very excited for what MS brings to the table!


The thing is I think it will just start in America if they do that.  U.S and Canada will most likely be the first two that gets it. lLucky for us XD lol  Where I live the 3 biggest cable providors is DirecTV, Comcast, and Suddenlink. Sadly I dont think the whole world will get that kind of service right out of the gate.