Is the market in decline, or is it Nintendo?

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NintendoPie on 08 February 2013

It's been said before but, Nintendo is indeed part of the Market. And when one part of the Market "declines" the whole part of it will "decline." It's common knowledge, I would think.

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Mr Khan on 08 February 2013

NintendoPie said:
It's been said before but, Nintendo is indeed part of the Market. And when one part of the Market "declines" the whole part of it will "decline." It's common knowledge, I would think.

Unless the other parts grow while the one part declines, which PS3/360 aren't doing anymore.

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Mr Khan said:

NintendoPie said:
It's been said before but, Nintendo is indeed part of the Market. And when one part of the Market "declines" the whole part of it will "decline." It's common knowledge, I would think.

Unless the other parts grow while the one part declines, which PS3/360 aren't doing anymore.

Well, I thought that was obvious. As long as something was there to sustain the dropoff that the Wii had then there would be no need for this discussion, but it was obvious neither the 360 nor the PS3 could have sustained the Wii's "bubble."

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RazorDragon on 08 February 2013

axumblade said:

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axumblade said:
I think it is because Nintendo is just the first on the market. If you look at the 360 launch, it wasn't super impressive (about 5 million before the next console launched) but it still managed to give the 360 the edge to keep it over the 360 up until this point.

The logistics behind this boggle the mind!

I know you meant the PS3. I would counter that the PS3 had a horrifically bad start, and that the Wii breezed right by the 360 in no time at all. More to the point, I'd argue that the Wii U launch is just outright botched: being first or last to release has no effect on that.

Sorry, feeling a bit sick today so I apparently have lost my ability to type. haha.

The Wii was able to easily glide by because it was set up to win. I see where you're coming from but I feel that if the 360 didn't have the head start, the PS3 could have easily outsold it. Many people bought a 360 because their friends already owned one. Of course then again, you could chalk it up to a botched release for the PS3.

Wii was set up to win? That's not what i heard back in 2006.

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RazorDragon said:

Wii was set up to win? That's not what i heard back in 2006.

Only the foolish (i.e. the video game industry and its pundits and bloggers) looked at the device and thought it was doomed to fail. Even the most cautious of reasonable folks expected the system to do well.

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noname2200 said:

RazorDragon said:

Wii was set up to win? That's not what i heard back in 2006.

Only the foolish (i.e. the video game industry and its pundits and bloggers) looked at the device and thought it was doomed to fail. Even the most cautious of reasonable folks expected the system to do well.

I see. You speak the truth.

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Mr Khan said:
The better question: is the market in decline because Nintendo's in decline?

7th-gen growth is largely due to Wii/DS, after all. If Nintendo's dropped the ball such that they're not doing the heavy lifting anymore, how will the 8th gen stack up?

Could be the first instance of gen-over-gen decline in the history of home console gaming.

We'll see how PS4 and Xbox 720 sell. I think MS/Sony will do most of the heavy lifting next-gen a lot earlier than they did the 7th gen.
We could see a gen-over-gen decline but that could be due to the Wii U failing to take off. I doubt we'll see all 3 console be so successful next-gen.