What is my place?

Just because you say I'm wrong, doesn't make it so. Just because your cut off for Big Budget is lower then mine, doesn't remove the fact that 360 has more big budget games. As much as you'd like to convince me that an average budget, average rating, and average sales FPS like Resistance is Big Budget doesn't make it so.

My cut-off is just higher then yours, and even if you lower the cut off to include games like Heavy Rain, you'd have to include games like Too Human and Alan Wake which had ridiculously long development times, and large budgets to back them. I don't consider any of these games big budget because they are all glitchy and unpolished (In the Fire Sequence at the end of the game, my character walked through the door and almost outside. I thought the glitch was the door not opening, but my friends thought we missed something inside, so we walked backed in and were forced into the fridge cinematic. WTH? I literally just walked out, how was this bug not caught? Similar things happened in Alan Wake and Too Human, but not as extreme)

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I completely disagree with that statement about SRPG's. SRPG's are my favorite genre, and Fire Emblem reigns over Valkyria Chronicles. VC does not have the character development, difficulty, or story complexity of Fire Emblem Games. Plus other then Fire Emblem, there are a dozen other better SRPG franchises, most see iterations on Nintendo consoles over Sony (e.g. Tactics Ogre, FF Tactics, and Advance Wars if you consider it an RPG)

Also, while Sony has had a highly rated game in most Genre's, Hasn't Nintendo? MS is a new platform, give them time and they will have at least 1 gem per genre too. You said before something alone the lines that Sony had the best in each genre, and that's either false or debatable, not a one sided landslide like your original post made it to be.

As for the RPG Most hardcore Final Fantasy fans put FFVI above FFVII. The reason why FFVII gets so much attention is because it's the first 3D FF game, and in most cases the first FF game FFVII fans have ever finished. Plus the series was only good on PS1, it went downhill after X. Since you mentioned consensus, I think most RPG fans would agree and say the SNES was the RPG machine, above the PS1 and PS2. Add in some excellent handheld JRPG's, Project Rainfall JRPG's, and a few other gems, and Nintendo has a first grasp on the JRPG genre.

I wouldn't put the general concensus in Sony's hands, I'd actually give it to Nintendo, and not just for RPG's, but games in general.

LOL SOCOM as a good shooter. I'd put Killzone here instead and it's nothing compared to other shooters.


Either way, your arguement seems to be pro-PS1/PS2, but what about PS3? Sony isn't what it used to be. PS3 doesn't offer as much as the PS1/PS2, and it's very debatable which system is best. All 3 modern systems have an excellent selection of games, and if anything I would say HD multiplatform games have a larger library of excellent titles then PS3/360/Wii see exclusively. MP games have something for all Genres, not just most.

I had those issues too. My PS2 Laser broke, and the ball bearings responsible for spinning the PS1 disk broke. I got a new PS2 though for $40 about a year ago, and it plays PS1 games so yay!

My PS3 had YLoD....

360 Had RRoD x 2 + 1 of the replacements (Under warrenty) was broken when I got it, LOL.

Oh I missread that. I didn't know what the Acronym stood for. Yea I'm not a fan of that, but I'm not being Game Specific for this thread so I added that for "Copying others innovation."

I don't love or hate Sony. As a consumer of Sony products, I have an interest in them surviving long enough for me to enjoy my purchases, I would appreciate if they provide great service after my purchases, but if they can't meet it, I can easily take my business elsewhere.

I grew up with Sony. PS1 was my first console, PS2 my second. I've never been unhappy as a gamer and I've been playing for about 17 years now. Aside from that...

Third party support from pretty much all of my favourite publishers has always been strong on Sony consoles.

Fantastic first party infrastructure who work together to push consoles to their limits.

Variety of Sony-owned IP's which are among my favourites and maintain consistently high quality.

Hardware itself has always been flawless. I own 5 Sony consoles, all of them still work and are the original machines (i.e. I've never replaced them)

i think we just will never agree on this, so there is no point of continueing. but thanks for putting the spoiler cover over what you wrote. most people dont pother with that :)

The place with the balloons.

Don't diss Socom. Have you played a PS2/PSP Socom online extensively? The PS3 installments were pretty crappy, but the PSP and PS2 installments were some of the best online games ever made. Of course it's not for everyone but to say it's not quality is just wrong. 

There's a reason why SOCOM II HD is one of the most requested ideas on the Platstation Blog. The request even has the second highest number of comments on the entire website, with nearly all of them being positive. It's a shame the PS3 installments were no good. Socom: FTB (a PSP game) was the greatest competetive online game I've ever played, even including current gen games. There's no game like it on consoles.

With that out of the way, I really loved Heavy Rain, and because I beat it with friends, that glitch made us all laugh on the floor.

Plus my friend accidentally shot that person in the face because of a sudden noise in the scene.

I hope we see more games like this, however in the future I'll savor them and not beat them in a single sitting.