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Otakumegane said:

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TheBardsSong said:

Michael-5 said:
K I've updated to this point, going to chillaxe now.

I'm surprised how high PS Plus is given that XBLG is so hated.



PS+ is like the Netflix of video games... kind of. XBLG just gives you access to multiplayer, youtube, netflix, crackle, and things that should be free.

I don't use Netflix, lol. Other then the ocassional free game, and deals on DLC, what does PS+ Offer you that's so good?

I do like Sony's approach over Microsofts. Free Online, pay for Bonus's



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The only right answer to all these love/hate company questions is the same for all:
Because I'm a fanboy.



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5. Resident Evil VII
4. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
3. Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
2. Horizon Zero Dawn
1. Super Mario Odyssey

forevercloud3000 said:
Michael-5 said:

GT5, UC2/3, GoW3 Yes, Killzone 2 maybe, the rest, no.

I put "exclusives not my taste" as a separate reason because I'm not a fan of GoW, LBP, and I'm not as crazy about Uncharted as I am 360/Wii Exclusives.

Bleh at bolded, obviously your taste buds are DEAD! :P

Why I love Sony-

They consistantly try to out do themselves instead of only workin in the vain to make money. Sure, they are a multibillion dollar company(less so much these days) but they spend a lot of time just trying to be creative and I love that. Many of their games stimulate me mentally, a requirement for me to enjoy anything. Stuff like Heavy Rain would have never happened without them and I love them for it. I didn't feel I became a gamer till I got my first PS1, and they have kept me around ever since. Sony Playstation convinced me to go into game design as well.

Why People Hate Sony-

Like some have said, its not exactly Sony they hate, rather the fans of Sony they despise. The thing is, many Sony fans come off "Better than thou" to other console affiliates and they find it aggrevating. I accept this is something many think of me as well as I am a very opinionated person and will often speak freely about things I loathe. There is still some pint up resentment from Nintendo Fans from the PS1 era where their fav was dethroned instantly by the new kid on the block. Many felt jaded by stolen exclusives (like PS3 fans do now). It feels like over due payback for some of them so they relish in every possible failure of Sony. As for 360 fans, a bit of the same, plus the added bonus they resist the fact they bought into a shoddy product and an opinionated person such as myself takes every opportunity to remind them of it. Also its kind of "Rich kid syndrome where people hate what they can't/ or just don't have. That is why the stellar-ness of PS3 exclusives will be frequently downplayed as if  they are of the normal ilk by opposing fans. I don't kid myself into fully believin that my opinion isn't also skewed by similar outlying factors, nevertheless I feel PS fan's vocal issues with NIN and MS are usually pretty founded while the inverse is not.

You realize, in your con about fanboys....you sound very egotistical. You sound exactly like you descibe, that the PS3 and Sony in general is "Better than thou." and you even insult other consoles in your dislikes about Sony. In your cons against Sony, you are giving pro's for Sony and critisizing everyone else. You even end with essentially the statement "Sony is perfect, any flaws mentioned are mentioned in spit."

LOL



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bananaking21 said:
Michael-5 said:

I Changed IP's to Games, you made a legitimate case there.


As for your pro's, They all fit 3 general category's lol. Lot's of IP's/Dedication to Gamers, Great Exclusives, and Variety of Exclusives/Innovative Games. LOL

However, "they treat their customers right" Is this dedication to Gamers, or Good Customer Service?

yeah just changing the discussion as you like since you were wrong, yeah that works out just fine! even so, heavy rain, killzone2/3, GoW3/A, Uncharted1/2/3, gran turismo, resistance1/2/3, the last of us, beying two souls, infamous1/2, littlebigplanet1/2. if you dont consider killzone 3 to be big budget then gears2/3 and judgment arent either. niether is forza4 or horizon. your arguement either way you put it in invalid. and thats a fact. i know i seem relentless and maybe rude(not my intention at all!) but what your saying is simply wrong, and its a fact. if you feel the quality of the games isnt good thats your opinion. but stating they dont have big budgets is something you are wrong about 

they treating to customers right part comes down to dedication to gamers plus the way they handle their products, they dont try to milk the customers wallet like MS do, for example the openess on the ps3 to some extent, you can use any HDD you want or any bluetooth headset, unlike MS where you have to buy overpriced ones from MS. another example is that they ensure quality, sony would never rush a product to the market like MS with the 360 and cause the RRoD fiasco. sony also doesnt fuck around with DLC like EA does. 

How's Heavy Rain a high budget game? I beat that game in 1 sitting, and it had a couple game crippling glitches.. Resistance Seriously? This is what I mean, a game from a small developer, which was rushed for launch is considered big budget.

Anyway, I was wrong yea....okay.

What's the #1 Hate...right.

Not a thread about MS.



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Otakumegane said:
Michael-5 said:

K I've updated to this point, going to chillaxe now.

I'm surprised how high PS Plus is given that XBLG is so hated.


Just realized you have X as your most hyped game. Man that game should be good.

Do you think it's a XenoBlade 2, XenoGears 2, or something new entirely? While the main character looks like Shulk, the Mechs and the Red X itself remind me of XenoGears.

Why isn't this a reason for why people hate Nintendo in the Nintendo Thread? Nintendo stole Final Fantasy Back (on handhelds), and Xeno___. Plus Nintendo actively works with MistWalker, the owner created Final Fantasy. Plus SMT and Dragon Quest are migrating back to Nintendo, and Monster Hunter recently jumped over..... JRPG's are coming back to Nintendo



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love:
first party games (MM and naughty dog especially)
ps+
free online
extra stuff it does (netflix, blu ray, internet browser)
trophies
cross buy between ps3 and vita
cloud saves

hate:
slow OS (load times and trophy syncing on ps3)
lack of x-game chat (on ps3)
lack of persistent online (on vita, i get signed out every time i go to the menu to set up x-game chat)



Michael-5 said:
bananaking21 said:
Michael-5 said:

I Changed IP's to Games, you made a legitimate case there.


As for your pro's, They all fit 3 general category's lol. Lot's of IP's/Dedication to Gamers, Great Exclusives, and Variety of Exclusives/Innovative Games. LOL

However, "they treat their customers right" Is this dedication to Gamers, or Good Customer Service?

yeah just changing the discussion as you like since you were wrong, yeah that works out just fine! even so, heavy rain, killzone2/3, GoW3/A, Uncharted1/2/3, gran turismo, resistance1/2/3, the last of us, beying two souls, infamous1/2, littlebigplanet1/2. if you dont consider killzone 3 to be big budget then gears2/3 and judgment arent either. niether is forza4 or horizon. your arguement either way you put it in invalid. and thats a fact. i know i seem relentless and maybe rude(not my intention at all!) but what your saying is simply wrong, and its a fact. if you feel the quality of the games isnt good thats your opinion. but stating they dont have big budgets is something you are wrong about 

they treating to customers right part comes down to dedication to gamers plus the way they handle their products, they dont try to milk the customers wallet like MS do, for example the openess on the ps3 to some extent, you can use any HDD you want or any bluetooth headset, unlike MS where you have to buy overpriced ones from MS. another example is that they ensure quality, sony would never rush a product to the market like MS with the 360 and cause the RRoD fiasco. sony also doesnt fuck around with DLC like EA does. 

How's Heavy Rain a high budget game? I beat that game in 1 sitting, and it had a couple game crippling glitches.. Resistance Seriously? This is what I mean, a game from a small developer, which was rushed for launch is considered big budget.

Anyway, I was wrong yea....okay.

What's the #1 Hate...right.

Not a thread about MS.

how is heavy rain considered high budget? lets see, new engine that produced great quality graphics. new in innovaitve technique's developed to envoke emotions through players. great voice acting with deep well developed characters. deep well developed story and strong story telling that became a benchmark for the industry. more than 20 ending based on the players actions. all that doesnt come cheap. it takes time to develop a game with that quality. its not just about the length of the game. if it were halo4 isnt big budget because its story mode finishes in 5~6 hours

 

and its not hate, its just pointing out facts. and its not a thread about MS, but when you point out MS in your OP, expect them to be brought up, specially since you used MS to compare them to sony, so its only logical that other posters do the same



bananaking21 said:
Michael-5 said:

How's Heavy Rain a high budget game? I beat that game in 1 sitting, and it had a couple game crippling glitches.. Resistance Seriously? This is what I mean, a game from a small developer, which was rushed for launch is considered big budget.

Anyway, I was wrong yea....okay.

What's the #1 Hate...right.

Not a thread about MS.

how is heavy rain considered high budget? lets see, new engine that produced great quality graphics. new in innovaitve technique's developed to envoke emotions through players. great voice acting with deep well developed characters. deep well developed story and strong story telling that became a benchmark for the industry. more than 20 ending based on the players actions. all that doesnt come cheap. it takes time to develop a game with that quality. its not just about the length of the game. if it were halo4 isnt big budget because its story mode finishes in 5~6 hours

 

and its not hate, its just pointing out facts. and its not a thread about MS, but when you point out MS in your OP, expect them to be brought up, specially since you used MS to compare them to sony, so its only logical that other posters do the same

What's the budget for Heavy Rain? It did not feel Big Budget to me, it felt no different then Alan Wake (which had a longer development cycle, and I souldn't be surprised if it had higher development costs). The game was very short, buggy, and most of the game was a real time event (which isn't hard to make).

Halo is short, but deep. Online is extensively fleshed out and Halo 4 pushes the 360 beyond what I thought 360 was capable of.

It's not pointing out facts, in your list of Big Budget games you included Resistance....Why not include PGR for 360 then? LOL Seriously, from what I know the only big budget games for HD consoles this gen are 3 Halo's, 3 Gears (Not Judgement), 3 Forza's (Not Horizon), GT5, Killzone 2, GoY3/Asc, and Uncharted 2 & 3. I personally didn't get the feel anything else was big budget.

Now maybe a game like White Knight Chronicles turns out to have cost a lot to develop. I didn't get that impression playing the game. I also changed my post to Big Budget Blockbuster titles. Halo/Gears/Forza/GT/Uncharted/GoW/Killzone 2 are genre defining. Game features introduced/Brought to light in the Gears of War series have been immitated by countless games (Cover, Hoard, Online Medals, etc). These games are also known about by the casual audience.

If I talked to my girlfriend about Heavy Rain, she wouldn't know what the heck I was talking about. However mention Uncharted, Halo, Forza, she knows what I'm talking about.


Anyway....F***, this isn't a debate, this thread isn't for people to stand up for their favorite consoles and attempt to omit them of any faults, this is all opinion. Geez.

Updated to here, please vote on Nintendo/Microsoft Threads to show me that people actually play games other then those on PS3.



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Michael-5 said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Michael-5 said:

GT5, UC2/3, GoW3 Yes, Killzone 2 maybe, the rest, no.

I put "exclusives not my taste" as a separate reason because I'm not a fan of GoW, LBP, and I'm not as crazy about Uncharted as I am 360/Wii Exclusives.

Bleh at bolded, obviously your taste buds are DEAD! :P

Why I love Sony-

They consistantly try to out do themselves instead of only workin in the vain to make money. Sure, they are a multibillion dollar company(less so much these days) but they spend a lot of time just trying to be creative and I love that. Many of their games stimulate me mentally, a requirement for me to enjoy anything. Stuff like Heavy Rain would have never happened without them and I love them for it. I didn't feel I became a gamer till I got my first PS1, and they have kept me around ever since. Sony Playstation convinced me to go into game design as well.

Why People Hate Sony-

Like some have said, its not exactly Sony they hate, rather the fans of Sony they despise. The thing is, many Sony fans come off "Better than thou" to other console affiliates and they find it aggrevating. I accept this is something many think of me as well as I am a very opinionated person and will often speak freely about things I loathe. There is still some pint up resentment from Nintendo Fans from the PS1 era where their fav was dethroned instantly by the new kid on the block. Many felt jaded by stolen exclusives (like PS3 fans do now). It feels like over due payback for some of them so they relish in every possible failure of Sony. As for 360 fans, a bit of the same, plus the added bonus they resist the fact they bought into a shoddy product and an opinionated person such as myself takes every opportunity to remind them of it. Also its kind of "Rich kid syndrome where people hate what they can't/ or just don't have. That is why the stellar-ness of PS3 exclusives will be frequently downplayed as if  they are of the normal ilk by opposing fans. I don't kid myself into fully believin that my opinion isn't also skewed by similar outlying factors, nevertheless I feel PS fan's vocal issues with NIN and MS are usually pretty founded while the inverse is not.

You realize, in your con about fanboys....you sound very egotistical. You sound exactly like you descibe, that the PS3 and Sony in general is "Better than thou." and you even insult other consoles in your dislikes about Sony. In your cons against Sony, you are giving pro's for Sony and critisizing everyone else. You even end with essentially the statement "Sony is perfect, any flaws mentioned are mentioned in spit."

LOL

Lol, I understand what I wrote.

Line 3, 2nd Para: " I accept this is something many think of me as well as I am a very opinionated person and will often speak freely about things I loathe."

I purposely wrote this while channeling what I spoke of, so my entire statement became a physical representation of what I was describing.

I don't think Sony is in any way flawless tho, they have serious problems as a company. Yet, I feel they are far better at the gaming craft than MS or NIN. MS, buyin their way into the industry simply cuz they were afraid of PS taking over the Personal Computer market, all the while forgot they had Apple breathing down their neck, and was willing to put out a shoddy product JUST so they can have a leg up on Sony and release a yr early. No sense of pride for what they make, all they care about is the money(more so than Sony or NIN). NIN are good at what they do, yet I tire of Mario and his appearances in anything big coming from NIN(I use him not in the singular but as an example of NIN games as a whole). Those games are indeed the life blood of their consoles and in some gens were the only thing keeping them alive. I just wish they tried harder at making more "mature" material.

As most would expect, when I weigh my opinion and then someone elses to descipher whose has more merit, mine undoubtedly comes out on top(and this is not the norm for me, for I at least can come up close to even with other's opinions on other things) :P



      

      

      

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