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TheSource on 05 February 2013
platformmaster918 said:
I see a lot of people citing Sony PS3 support as a reason they won't announce PS4 soon. Sony keeps their old systems going long after the new ones are out. PS3 still hasn't even reached $200 and is still doing 100k per week. It'll get spikes with the big software coming the next couple months and then get up to 120k or so at least when it hits $200 (this is a very conservative prediction as that is a BIG price point to reach).

You can get PS3 for $200 with retailer discounts, and 100k a week is not even remotely good by historical measures. A an average week globally is 50k US, 20k JP, 40k Western Europe, and another 20k in Canada, Australia, Latin America, Asia, Africa. A "strong week" is 100k US, 40k JP, 80k Western Europe, 40k elsewhere - 260k globally. Wii / PS2 / PS1 / GBA / DS had strong weeks for 3-5 years each, PS3 / X360 only had 2011 really where figures could be considered good.

PS3 also sold 300k+ from August - Oct 2009 at $300, more than double the previous rate - that's when it became mainstream. $250 in 2013 is actually less than $200 in terms of value for a customer because of inflation, $200 in 2002 would buy like $280 worth of stuff in 2013, PS3 is already cheaper than PS2 was when it hit mass market and is still declining quickly.

PS4 is coming - PS3 is going to struggle to sell 20m over the rest of it's lifespan (7.5m in 2013, 4.5m in 2014, 2m in 2015, 1m in 2016, discontinued thereafter).



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platformmaster918 on 05 February 2013
TheSource said:
platformmaster918 said:
I see a lot of people citing Sony PS3 support as a reason they won't announce PS4 soon. Sony keeps their old systems going long after the new ones are out. PS3 still hasn't even reached $200 and is still doing 100k per week. It'll get spikes with the big software coming the next couple months and then get up to 120k or so at least when it hits $200 (this is a very conservative prediction as that is a BIG price point to reach).

You can get PS3 for $200 with retailer discounts, and 100k a week is not even remotely good by historical measures. A an average week globally is 50k US, 20k JP, 40k Western Europe, and another 20k in Canada, Australia, Latin America, Asia, Africa. A "strong week" is 100k US, 40k JP, 80k Western Europe, 40k elsewhere - 260k globally. Wii / PS2 / PS1 / GBA / DS had strong weeks for 3-5 years each, PS3 / X360 only had 2011 really where figures could be considered good.

PS3 also sold 300k+ from August - Oct 2009 at $300, more than double the previous rate - that's when it became mainstream. $250 in 2013 is actually less than $200 in terms of value for a customer because of inflation, $200 in 2002 would buy like $280 worth of stuff in 2013, PS3 is already cheaper than PS2 was when it hit mass market and is still declining quickly.

PS4 is coming - PS3 is going to struggle to sell 20m over the rest of it's lifespan (7.5m in 2013, 4.5m in 2014, 2m in 2015, 1m in 2016, discontinued thereafter).

people don't factor in inflation with game consoles though.  Nintendo had stayed within $50 of their 1985 launch price of the NES up until this gen.  $200 has been a big price point for awhile.  It starts becoming a more impulse buy.  $150 even more so.  360 has had a $200 model available for awhile now.




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M.U.G.E.N on 05 February 2013
Osc89 said:
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sigh listen..this is the ps4 reveal. It's being confirmed by several trusted sources already. They will not bother holding an event called the PS Meeting if it wasn't a hardware reveal. This is a special event sony does to unveil hardware and afaik there has been no exceptions. 

Gaikai will be a part of their future strategy but they won't have a whole event just for that. Gaikai will get mentioned most probably during this event as well as at E3. 

If you are so confident I am even willing to take a bet on this :) 


No way, I'm not confident at all. I have no idea what they want to do, so I'll gladly defer.

I was just thinking through what I would consider best for Sony, and I personally settled on Gaikai reveal. It seems the best time, as everyone is desperate for next-gen news and will be paying attention. And it's not the easiest concept for the general consumer to grasp, so if they can throw the spotlight on it while nothing else is going on the more people will talk about this. $380 million is still a lot to spend on what will be a footnote to the presentation.

You're probably right though, maybe there are advantages to an early PS4 launch I haven't considered.

Gaikai should be and most probably will be a huge part of it..but it shouldn't be the focus. Sony is doing the right. They released a 44 second video that has over 4mil views now that says absolutely nothing. With this move it shows they are serious and confident. It's a good move. It won't do them any good if the reveal is lack luster however lol. But yes I think they are going at it hard this time and it will be mainly about PS4 for the rest of the year. SCEA even hired a new advertising firm



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kain_kusanagi on 05 February 2013

I'm telling you guys it's going to be a PS Vita Go with no card slot and a price increase.



Nem on 05 February 2013

Its obvious its the PS4, no doubt about it. The question is if they will use the opportunity to breathe some life into the Vita aswell, wich i hope they do.



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yum123 on 05 February 2013

just some blogger trying to get hits