VGKing said: sales2099 said: The discussion passed. Not doing this again. Your a statistical minority that will care post November. NEWSFLASH: All of us on this site are statistical minorities. The majority of gamers dont' care that the Xbox 360 sold a little bit more than the PS3. They are out there enjoying games like Nino Kuni and anticipating games like God of War Ascension and The Last of US.  Just because we are the minorities, it doesn't mean we don't matter or that we don't have a voice. Are you familiar with Martin Luther King?

Do not compare him to video games.......ill pretend you didn't just do that and compare gaming fans to racial equality.

Among us, PC/Nin/MS gamers would have moved on, 2 out of the 3 all ready have with thr MS crew moving on after November. That just leaves the PS fan internet minority, with only a sub-minority of that minority actually caring about PS3 sales at that point.

Your voice is but a whimper.

sales2099 said: VGKing said: sales2099 said: The discussion passed. Not doing this again. Your a statistical minority that will care post November. NEWSFLASH: All of us on this site are statistical minorities. The majority of gamers dont' care that the Xbox 360 sold a little bit more than the PS3. They are out there enjoying games like Nino Kuni and anticipating games like God of War Ascension and The Last of US.  Just because we are the minorities, it doesn't mean we don't matter or that we don't have a voice. Are you familiar with Martin Luther King? Do not compare him to video games.......ill pretend you didn't just do that and compare gaming fans to racial equality. Among us, PC/Nin/MS gamers would have moved on, 2 out of the 3 all ready have with thr MS crew moving on after November. That just leaves the PS fan internet minority, with only a sub-minority of that minority actually caring about PS3 sales at that point. Your voice is but a whimper.

What a ridiculous argument. You obviously can't accept the fact that PS3 will surpass XBox 360 sometime in the future. You are in denial. Once next-gen PS4 and Xbox come out, MILLIONS WILL STILL BE GAMING ON PS3/360. That is a fact. Those who get these consoles at launch are the minority. So please stop here before you embarrass yourself. If you REALLY didn't care about sales, then stop visiting this website. Stop commenting on the Weekly sales threads. The fact that you keep stating that it doesn't matter anymore proves that you still care so much as to try to downplay it over and over again.

VGKing said: sales2099 said: VGKing said: sales2099 said: The discussion passed. Not doing this again. Your a statistical minority that will care post November. NEWSFLASH: All of us on this site are statistical minorities. The majority of gamers dont' care that the Xbox 360 sold a little bit more than the PS3. They are out there enjoying games like Nino Kuni and anticipating games like God of War Ascension and The Last of US.  Just because we are the minorities, it doesn't mean we don't matter or that we don't have a voice. Are you familiar with Martin Luther King? Do not compare him to video games.......ill pretend you didn't just do that and compare gaming fans to racial equality. Among us, PC/Nin/MS gamers would have moved on, 2 out of the 3 all ready have with thr MS crew moving on after November. That just leaves the PS fan internet minority, with only a sub-minority of that minority actually caring about PS3 sales at that point. Your voice is but a whimper. What a ridiculous argument. You obviously can't accept the fact that PS3 will surpass XBox 360 sometime in the future. You are in denial. Once next-gen PS4 and Xbox come out, MILLIONS WILL STILL BE GAMING ON PS3/360. That is a fact. Those who get these consoles at launch are the minority. So please stop here before you embarrass yourself. If you REALLY didn't care about sales, then stop visiting this website. Stop commenting on the Weekly sales threads. The fact that you keep stating that it doesn't matter anymore proves that you still care so much as to try to downplay it over and over again.

I accepted it for a few years now. Your in denial that all gaming fans (PC/MS/Nin).....except SOME PS3 fans, don't care. Simple as that.

Its people like you that address me over and over that proves your care so much that your trying to scrape together whatever victory you can get.

sales2099 said: CGI-Quality said: sales2099 said: CGI-Quality said: sales2099 said: The 30k gap keeps up then 360 will have no problem holding 2nd til November. Which is irrelevant for a two reasons: A. The gap won't remain that low (God of War: Ascension and The Last Of Us weeks should see spikes) B. Even if the PS3 doesn't pass the 360 till next year, it's pretty much a certainty, regardless.  OT: I'm pretty happy for Ni No Kuni, though I'm not surprised. I know a lot of people that bought it and the buzz surrounding it has been pretty strong.   It is a certainty, but 360 fans such as myself see holding out for the "relevant" parts of the gen and not the aftermath sales important. It's always relevant. That's like saying PS2's sales after November 11, 2006 were irrelevant. Unlike personal feelings, business doesn't work like that.  They were irrelevant as Gamecube and Xbox were done. But more importantly the gamers focused on the newer machines as only casuals got the PS2 from that point onward. You can disagree, but as this has been said numerous times, winning while the 3 consoles are "in the spotlight" is important. To pass afterwards just means you weren't good enough to pass it within the window of the devices being most current.

In that case shouldn't we exclude sales from 05 and most of 06, as the PS3/Wii wasn't relevant nor was there any next gen competition. How can you not see the irony in your post?

sales2099 said: VGKing said: What a ridiculous argument. You obviously can't accept the fact that PS3 will surpass XBox 360 sometime in the future. You are in denial. Once next-gen PS4 and Xbox come out, MILLIONS WILL STILL BE GAMING ON PS3/360. That is a fact. Those who get these consoles at launch are the minority. So please stop here before you embarrass yourself. If you REALLY didn't care about sales, then stop visiting this website. Stop commenting on the Weekly sales threads. The fact that you keep stating that it doesn't matter anymore proves that you still care so much as to try to downplay it over and over again. I accepted it for a few years now. Your in denial that all gaming fans (PC/MS/Nin).....except SOME PS3 fans, don't care. Simple as that. Its people like you that address me over and over that proves your care so much that your trying to scrape together whatever victory you can get.

LMFAO. You're the one whose downplaying any sort of achievement the PS3 does. PS3 has The Last of US, God of War,  NinoKuni, Beyond...etc all these exlucsive games coming this year? WHO CARES US XBOX FANS WILL BE PLAYING ON THE NEXT GENERATION! 

Obviously I am paraphrasing but that is your general stance on PS3. We can never celebrate any achievement because you're bored of current-gen. The only reason I'm even replying to you is because your logic is so ridiculous that it is annoying and borderline trolling. I reported you so hopefully the mods deal with you. I'm done here.

Come on Nintendo, Wii U needs games!!! Stop making me wait for Pikmin 3, dammit!

cheese_man said: sales2099 said: CGI-Quality said: sales2099 said: CGI-Quality said: sales2099 said: The 30k gap keeps up then 360 will have no problem holding 2nd til November. Which is irrelevant for a two reasons: A. The gap won't remain that low (God of War: Ascension and The Last Of Us weeks should see spikes) B. Even if the PS3 doesn't pass the 360 till next year, it's pretty much a certainty, regardless.  OT: I'm pretty happy for Ni No Kuni, though I'm not surprised. I know a lot of people that bought it and the buzz surrounding it has been pretty strong.   It is a certainty, but 360 fans such as myself see holding out for the "relevant" parts of the gen and not the aftermath sales important. It's always relevant. That's like saying PS2's sales after November 11, 2006 were irrelevant. Unlike personal feelings, business doesn't work like that.  They were irrelevant as Gamecube and Xbox were done. But more importantly the gamers focused on the newer machines as only casuals got the PS2 from that point onward. You can disagree, but as this has been said numerous times, winning while the 3 consoles are "in the spotlight" is important. To pass afterwards just means you weren't good enough to pass it within the window of the devices being most current. In that case shouldn't we exclude sales from 05 and most of 06, as the PS3 wasn't relevant nor was there any next gen competition. How can you not see the irony in your post?

PS3 was relevant....it was eagerly anticipated in that time period.

Really sad for WiiU...

Ni No Kuni is for sure over tracked

JGarret said: Gamerace said: JGarret said: Gamerace said: JGarret said: Sal.Paradise said: JGarret said: Surreal. I never expected the Wii U to perform as well as the Wii, but not bad like that, man, not like that...and can you imagine if NSMBU wasn´t available? I don't think anybody on the chartz predicted this, or at least I didn't see anyone predict it. You'd probably be labelled a hater if you did! True. That´s one of the reasons a new generation is exciting..it´s a completely new game, being the 'winner' in a previous generation means very little or nothing if you don´t play your cards right. Well, I did predict WiiU would only do 30m lifetime and be replaced by 2016 prior to launch.  However, looking at these post-holiday numbers makes me wonder if I wasn't too generous in that prediction.  Not even the Nintendo-core are buying WiiU.  Not yet anyway.   Desperately needs games. 30 million?...that´s worse than the N64...personally, I see it somewhere between the N64 and the NES, leaning much more towards the former. I gave a lot of reasons for that.  Basically the gamepad adds too much cost for an otherwise (soon-to-be) out of date system without any of the benefits that the Wiimote or DS's second screen added.    It's seen as neither innovative nor desirable to the majority of people.  If the gamepad adds nothing to gameplay (and for the most part this is true, almost all WiiU games can be played without it, without losing anything really.  Then the only reason to buy one is to eventually play HD 3D Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros....    There is no other reason to get one.  Worse, if PS4/720 launch as comparible price points (likely since they aren't THAT high tech and Sony/MS will almost certainly take a loss on them once again) WiiU is completely f---edI have to ask, what your reaction the first time Nintendo showeed I have to ask, what was your reaction the first time Nintendo showed the Wii U at E3 2011?...the Wii, in the beginning of the generation, was following in the NES´ footsteps, then in 2010 it shifted to a more "N64/GCN approach", with the exception of DKC Returns...I take it you, as a Wii fan, started feeling 'left out'.

I had huge reservations about it from the start.  In 2004/5 Nintendo was wondering how to get more people to play.  They realized that the dual analog controllers were a huge discouragement for new people to begin playing (kids excepted).  Their solution was the wiimote.   It was admittedly an imperfect solution but it accomplished what Nintendo was after - grew their user base tremendously.    So to see them return to the dual analog controller (albeit with a touch screen attached) was a shock and disappointment. I knew instantly it would flop.  Casuals who didn't like the dual analog before certainly wouldn't like a bigger/bulkier and even more interface confusing one now and core gamers aren't going to take too kindly to the huge touchscreen either.   At that time it wasn't clear then how much the wiimote would continue to be supported though, or price, power, etc. 

Once it became clear that WiiU would be over-priced (because of the gamepad), underpowered (because of the cost of the gamepad), and lacked any killer core or casual launch title I knew it was doomed to Gamecube-like sales. Nintendoland fails because, while the appeal of the wiimote/Wii Sports was obvious, Nintendoland has to be played to see it's appeal and casual's won't want to play with the dual analog gamepad to begin with.    If they were willing to use dual analog they'd get a 360/PS3 with a s---load more games instead.  

WiiU (IMO) is completely and utterly screwed without an audience beyond the Nintendo faithful and I expected them to support WiiU better than what we're seeing.   I imagine once 3D Mario, Kart, Zelda, Smash, etc release the faithful will pick it up but now I'm starting to think it's sales will be closer to 10m as it's 3rd party support will likely be even worse than Gamecube's and GC at least had better tech and lower price than PS2.   WiiU will be substancially weaker than it's competition and likely just as expensive - possibly more, depending on how big a loss MS will take and how big a discount a 2yr XBL subscription will offer.

As a Wii fan I did feel NSMBWii was the last offering Nintendo made for people 'like me'.  Wii Party was 'meh', Wii Motion Plus sucked, and while I personally enjoyed Metroid: Other M and Kirby I'm sure most casuals or semi-core/casuals like me probably didn't look twice at them. Just Dance/Zumba Fitness saved Wii from falling even faster and further than it did.   And frankly Dance Central/Kinect is much better than those.