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I regret jumping on to the wiiu so fast. I should have waited until holiday 2013 to choose. I probably would have gotten the wiiu cheaper or possibly would have jumped up to the ps4. Hoping for $400 price tag.



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Let's not jump to conclusions. The Vita had a lot of hype as well.



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Uhh no, I'm pretty sure MS would also tease the 720 soon. And open up on E3.

They would have the same amount of hype. Heck even the SAME type of hype. The next gen hype.

Just because Ps4 just got teased doesn't mean people are just exited about one console. They're exited about next gen.

Ohh silly Turkish.



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As was said before; Wii U will be deeply effected, but for nextXboxer's, it depends on region. A PS4 announcement will dominate the Japanese and European territories IMO, but it'll only generate -some- hype in America; the next Xbox will be a guaranteed success in America, considered it's current dominating presence. 



All of this, of course, is just my opinion.

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PureDante said:

As was said before; Wii U will be deeply effected, but for nextXboxer's, it depends on region. A PS4 announcement will dominate the Japanese and European territories IMO, but it'll only generate -some- hype in America; the next Xbox will be a guaranteed success in America, considered it's current dominating presence. 


PS2 was also dominant in America, it didn't ensure PS3 winning there. It really doesn't matter how big the 360 is in America right now, everything can change next gen. The system with the most games and the lowest pricetag is likely to win.



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I can't see PS4 or Nextbox being as huge of deals as people want them to be if they're just gonna be a graphical upgrade. Graphics are already amazing, there's only so much farther they can push. So they're gonna have to rely on more than that to get people really excited and wanting it.



Turkish said:
PureDante said:

As was said before; Wii U will be deeply effected, but for nextXboxer's, it depends on region. A PS4 announcement will dominate the Japanese and European territories IMO, but it'll only generate -some- hype in America; the next Xbox will be a guaranteed success in America, considered it's current dominating presence. 


PS2 was also dominant in America, it didn't ensure PS3 winning there. It really doesn't matter how big the 360 is in America right now, everything can change next gen. The system with the most games and the lowest pricetag is likely to win.

The 360 didn't necessarily have the most games though. Ps3 did/does. In fact, all of the x360's 'exclusive' titles were ported to the ps3 later anyway. It's not as if bioshock/lost planet/mass effect/360->ps3 port had a dominating console-sales effect as a halo or gears release would create. Sony honestly needs to take charge with CoD, strictly mentioned due to its phenomenal popularity, with some sort of exclusive advantage at the launch/early years of Ps4 to attract x360 hardcore's; if not, I don't know what could possibly give them a dominating desire to purchase their product if they continue their current business plan.

I'm a sony fanboy with a halo addiction, but if sony just pumps out more uncharted's, killzone's, and gran turismo's, they won't get far. Granted that this won't happen as sony had so many new IP's this generation, I just feel like games mentioned in the previous sentence just aren't enough. 



All of this, of course, is just my opinion.

Skyrim 100%'d. Dark Souls 100%'d. 
Dark Souls > Skyrim.
Halo 4 is the best damn FPS since Halo 3.
Proud pre-orderer of 2 PS4's and an Xbox One. 

Currently Playing: Dark Souls II, South Park
Playstation 4: MGS V GZ, Killzone: Shadow Fall, NBA 2k14.

Turkish said:
PureDante said:

As was said before; Wii U will be deeply effected, but for nextXboxer's, it depends on region. A PS4 announcement will dominate the Japanese and European territories IMO, but it'll only generate -some- hype in America; the next Xbox will be a guaranteed success in America, considered it's current dominating presence. 


PS2 was also dominant in America, it didn't ensure PS3 winning there. It really doesn't matter how big the 360 is in America right now, everything can change next gen. The system with the most games and the lowest pricetag is likely to win.

People who constantly bring up the Xbox dominance in the US always seem to forget this.  The 360's starting at $200 less, having better 3rd party support for the first 2 years, and coming out 1 year earlier is what helped the Xbox seize hold of the US market this gen.  However, next gen Sony will not have those disadvantages this time around.  Does that mean that the Xbox can't still win US?  No.  But MS is going to have to bring their A game, since just like the PS3, it can't sell on name brand alone.

As for this announcement, it will probably hurt Nintendo.  For the few weeks before the announcement, as well as after the announcement, the media and gaming crowd are going to be talking about nothing but the PS4.  Nothing Nintendo announces will have any affect on sales of the Wii U, barring a price cut of $80-100.  Nintendo has got their work cut out for them if they want to turn around sales, and contrary to Nintendo fans beliefs, its going to take more than a few remakes and a 3D Mario. 

How this affects MS is going to depend on if the rumors surrounding it are true.  If its true that MS is sacrificing graphical power in order to push Kinect 2 and Windows 8, then that's not going to play out well.  First of all, a lot of core gamers didn't exactly like the Kinect, or MS's focus on it for the past 2 years.  If MS shows that they are really pushing Kinect 2 big time, its going to turn a lot of away from the NeXbox.  The lukewarm response to Windows 8 isn also going to be a turn off if it truly is the OS it uses.  Graphically, the NeXbox graphics aren't going to be as impressive if the PS4's graphics have already been shown weeks/months earlier and they are not only on par, but better than the Nexbox's. 



thismeintiel said:
Turkish said:
PureDante said:

As was said before; Wii U will be deeply effected, but for nextXboxer's, it depends on region. A PS4 announcement will dominate the Japanese and European territories IMO, but it'll only generate -some- hype in America; the next Xbox will be a guaranteed success in America, considered it's current dominating presence. 


PS2 was also dominant in America, it didn't ensure PS3 winning there. It really doesn't matter how big the 360 is in America right now, everything can change next gen. The system with the most games and the lowest pricetag is likely to win.

People who constantly bring up the Xbox dominance in the US always seem to forget this.  The 360's starting at $200 less, having better 3rd party support for the first 2 years, and coming out 1 year earlier is what helped the Xbox seize hold of the US market this gen.  However, next gen Sony will not have those disadvantages this time around.  Does that mean that the Xbox can't still win US?  No.  But MS is going to have to bring their A game, since just like the PS3, it can't sell on name brand alone.

As for this announcement, it will probably hurt Nintendo.  For the few weeks before the announcement, as well as after the announcement, the media and gaming crowd are going to be talking about nothing but the PS4.  Nothing Nintendo announces will have any affect on sales of the Wii U, barring a price cut of $80-100.  Nintendo has got their work cut out for them if they want to turn around sales, and contrary to Nintendo fans beliefs, its going to take more than a few remakes and a 3D Mario. 

How this affects MS is going to depend on if the rumors surrounding it are true.  If its true that MS is sacrificing graphical power in order to push Kinect 2 and Windows 8, then that's not going to play out well.  First of all, a lot of core gamers didn't exactly like the Kinect, or MS's focus on it for the past 2 years.  If MS shows that they are really pushing Kinect 2 big time, its going to turn a lot of away from the NeXbox.  The lukewarm response to Windows 8 isn also going to be a turn off if it truly is the OS it uses.  Graphically, the NeXbox graphics aren't going to be as impressive if the PS4's graphics have already been shown weeks/months earlier and they are not only on par, but better than the Nexbox's. 


I completly agree with this. I wouldn't mind a weaker Nextbox if it has Win8 and Kinect 2 on board. Since both PS4 and Nextbox will resemble pcs alot I hope the ports are easy to down/upscale, I'd rather have PS4 get pc ports than 720.



Turkish said:


I completly agree with this. I wouldn't mind a weaker Nextbox if it has Win8 and Kinect 2 on board. Since both PS4 and Nextbox will resemble pcs alot I hope the ports are easy to down/upscale, I'd rather have PS4 get pc ports than 720.

I think it would benefit MS if they had it where you could switch OSs between the NeXbox OS and Windows 7 (not 8).  However, rumors suggest that they are focusing on having the NeXbox help push Windows 8 by using it as the main OS.  This will probably turn quite a few people off, if true.