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if Iwata goes then we will see mario and zelda on mobiles ,tablets ...not even a anti nintendo fan would like to see that..that means no consoles from nintendo in the future because their IPs will become irrevelant if it goes mobile.



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Attoyou said:
UncleScrooge said:

@ Rest of the thread: What are you guys talking about? Nintendo is not fine, both their console and handheld markets are in severe decline and Iwata, being the CEO and responsible for Nintendo's operations, is to blame for this. Iwata was really smart using Blue Ocean strategy and making their next console a disruptive one - his analysis of the video gaming market in the early 2000's was spot on and his actions well thought out. But after that things just went downhill in every possible regard. Here's some blatant mistakes Nintendo made under Iwata's lead that any mediocre CEO should have been able to avoid:

- Not following up the first waves of mass market games on the Wii with new titles, thus letting the Wii die
- Completely abandoning the mass market with the 3DS
- Pricing the 3DS insanely high just because Iwata himself thought they "could charge that price"
- Not providing a decent line-up in the first year of the 3DS
- Pushing numerous games back in the west and right now acting all surprised the console isn't selling (!)
- Abandoning the customers of the Wii with the Wii U because they wanted to focus on "the core gamer"...
- ... which equals going back to the business strategies that almost bankrupted the company some years ago
- Not providing a decent launch line up for the Wii U despite claiming to have "learned a lesson"

Other things include:
- Not following up Nintendo's growth with the acquisition of new development studios
- The Fallout with EA which will strip Nintendo of any serious EA support for years
- The inability to keep his own developers in check (5 years of Zelda dev cycle, 3D Mario, Pikmin 3 announcement)
- His inability to make sure deadlines are being met (like 50% of the Wii U Q1 line-up was pushed back!!)
- Repeatedly (!) overestimating demand for Nintendo systems in their FY forecasts
- The inability to create an account system for their consoles and the resulting "data transfer" fiasco

--> To sum it all up Iwata (and some of Nintendo's managers and developers) got full of themselves, which is the only possible explanation for some absolutely mindboggling decisions the company made over the last few years. As CEO Iwata's job is to run the company and he's responsible for all of this. Nintendo is looking more and more like Apple did in the 90's: Continuously making questionable business decisions while sitting on a gold mine.

I keep seeing this, what happened exactly? 


Remember at E3 2011 when Wii U was unvieled and an EA guy came out on stage and said something about EA and Nintendo having an 'unprecedented partnership?'

Then later on  we got reports EA was trying to convince Nintendo to make Origins the backbone of their online system, some EA guy even flew to Japan to discuss it.

Then after that we got reports that there had been a fall out (Nintendo refused or something) and some other devs, like Ubisoft were saying they were glad Nintendo did not give EA what they wanted.

And ever since, EA has seemingly been screwing Wii U over, like releasing ME trilogy on PS360 after they had announced ME3 for Wii U and the Fifa game and whatever...



Attoyou said:
UncleScrooge said:



I keep seeing this, what happened exactly? 


Nintendo and EA wanted to cooperate on the Wii U's online service. Thus EA gave an enthusiastic speech at e3 2011 painting a bright future for their partnership. But it turned out EA wanted Nintendo to use EA's online service as the default for the Wii U so Nintendo canceled the deal. When you read it on most gaming websites you'd think EA tried to talk Nintendo into something they didn't want but seriously - I doubt this was just a misunderstanding. Most likely Nintendo agreed at first (or gave EA the impression they'd agree) and later backed off which naturally pissed EA off. In any case (even if it was EA's fault - I don't have any insider info of course) Iwata's job was to make sure there wouldn't be a fallout between both companies. EA went from totally enthusiastic to "the Wii U is not a next gen console and we have other plans" in a matter of months.



UncleScrooge said:
Attoyou said:
UncleScrooge said:



I keep seeing this, what happened exactly? 


Nintendo and EA wanted to cooperate on the Wii U's online service. Thus EA gave an enthusiastic speech at e3 2011 painting a bright future for their partnership. But it turned out EA wanted Nintendo to use EA's online service as the default for the Wii U so Nintendo canceled the deal. When you read it on most gaming websites you'd think EA tried to talk Nintendo into something they didn't want but seriously - I doubt this was just a misunderstanding. Most likely Nintendo agreed at first (or gave EA the impression they'd agree) and later backed off which naturally pissed EA off. In any case (even if it was EA's fault - I don't have any insider info of course) Iwata's job was to make sure there wouldn't be a fallout between both companies. EA went from totally enthusiastic to "the Wii U is not a next gen console and we have other plans" in a matter of months.


That sounds like it was EA's fault.

Negotiating with a Japanese company requires certain knowledge of the Japanese culture. Its not the same as the US/Europe. Spoken promises are highly valued there and its usually a very complex procedure. I am 100% convinced that this was EA trying to fool Nintendo and a translation/cultural issue. The Japanese dont exactly say NO in a convincing way, they are too polite. You have to be able to read it in them (for example they may bow alot giving you the impression they are agreeing with you when in fact they are apologising). It sucks, but its that way for every company dealing with japanese companies.



Carl2291 said:
Iwata should stay.

Reggie should go.


Their jobs really have nothing to do with one another.  Like at all.  Or are you just speaking of them personally?



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I still say they're not going to find anyone better. Rather Iwata himself who has to revise the strategy, because clearly he's capable of successfully moving between GC-like and Wii-like modes of thinking (and backwards with less pleasant results)



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I would not like to see Iwata go. He is the only reason there is still a Nintendo at all. Had he not reversed course from the GameCube and decided to go in a more mainstream-friendly direction with the Wii and DS instead of simply adding more buttons and better graphics, Nintendo today would have an even smaller market share than what they had during the GameCube era.

Yes, there have been misses. But there have also been a LOT of wins. Just remember that Nintendo banked more than $10 billion in reserve cash during the height of the Wii and DS phenomenon due to his decision to take the company out of the "Nintendo-fan only" niche that was the GameCube.



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Play4Fun said:
Attoyou said:
UncleScrooge said:

@ Rest of the thread: What are you guys talking about? Nintendo is not fine, both their console and handheld markets are in severe decline and Iwata, being the CEO and responsible for Nintendo's operations, is to blame for this. Iwata was really smart using Blue Ocean strategy and making their next console a disruptive one - his analysis of the video gaming market in the early 2000's was spot on and his actions well thought out. But after that things just went downhill in every possible regard. Here's some blatant mistakes Nintendo made under Iwata's lead that any mediocre CEO should have been able to avoid:

- Not following up the first waves of mass market games on the Wii with new titles, thus letting the Wii die
- Completely abandoning the mass market with the 3DS
- Pricing the 3DS insanely high just because Iwata himself thought they "could charge that price"
- Not providing a decent line-up in the first year of the 3DS
- Pushing numerous games back in the west and right now acting all surprised the console isn't selling (!)
- Abandoning the customers of the Wii with the Wii U because they wanted to focus on "the core gamer"...
- ... which equals going back to the business strategies that almost bankrupted the company some years ago
- Not providing a decent launch line up for the Wii U despite claiming to have "learned a lesson"

Other things include:
- Not following up Nintendo's growth with the acquisition of new development studios
- The Fallout with EA which will strip Nintendo of any serious EA support for years
- The inability to keep his own developers in check (5 years of Zelda dev cycle, 3D Mario, Pikmin 3 announcement)
- His inability to make sure deadlines are being met (like 50% of the Wii U Q1 line-up was pushed back!!)
- Repeatedly (!) overestimating demand for Nintendo systems in their FY forecasts
- The inability to create an account system for their consoles and the resulting "data transfer" fiasco

--> To sum it all up Iwata (and some of Nintendo's managers and developers) got full of themselves, which is the only possible explanation for some absolutely mindboggling decisions the company made over the last few years. As CEO Iwata's job is to run the company and he's responsible for all of this. Nintendo is looking more and more like Apple did in the 90's: Continuously making questionable business decisions while sitting on a gold mine.

I keep seeing this, what happened exactly? 


Remember at E3 2011 when Wii U was unvieled and an EA guy came out on stage and said something about EA and Nintendo having an 'unprecedented partnership?'

Then later on  we got reports EA was trying to convince Nintendo to make Origins the backbone of their online system, some EA guy even flew to Japan to discuss it.

Then after that we got reports that there had been a fall out (Nintendo refused or something) and some other devs, like Ubisoft were saying they were glad Nintendo did not give EA what they wanted.

And ever since, EA has seemingly been screwing Wii U over, like releasing ME trilogy on PS360 after they had announced ME3 for Wii U and the Fifa game and whatever...

Hmmm. Many thanks to you and Unclescrooge for the info. 



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