Nintendo: European Hardware Sales in 2012

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NoCtiS_NoX on 31 January 2013

pezus said:
PS3 could even be undertracked, so Kowenicki was wrong all along. (He loves being right, he said)

OT:

PS3 doing great in Europe.

Xbox 360 good good.

WiiU not doing so great.. Wii is declining bad sign if WiiU doesn't pick up.

PSV only 1 million for 2012 is not great disheartening numbers.

PSP is surprisingly doing great in europe.

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MARCUSDJACKSON on 31 January 2013

thismeintiel said:

MARCUSDJACKSON said:

ethomaz said:

YOY

- VGC have the PS3 18% down in Europe... Nintendo had it only 11% down.
- VGC have the 360 39% down in Europe... Nintendo had it only 19% down.
- VGC have the WII 58% down in Europe... Nintendo had it only 49% down.

I think every console is undertracked in Europe if the 2011 VGC numbers are correted and already adjusted.

you got any ruff averages off the top of your head if any of the scenarios play out? i know vgc adjusted down PS3 from 11.9m and 360 from 10.3m or .5. down to PS3 11.3m and 360 to like 9.4m. for 2012.

Know you were asking ethomaz but I felt like putting my 2 cents in.

If you use Nintendo's YOY declines and apply it to VGC's numbers for EU 2011, we get ~5.14M for the PS3, ~3.37M for the 360, and ~2.09M for the Wii in 2012. This would add an extra 392K for the PS3, or 11.67M WW. Add an extra 437K for the 360, or 10.24M WW (this lines up better with MS shipped numbers). And an extra 372K for the Wii, or 5.28M WW. Of course, this only works if they were flat by the same amount in the countries Nintendo doesn't include in EU.

It is interesting to note that with the calculations I made above, the sold number for MS now syncs up better with the shipment numbers they reported. This would put 1.88M consoles on shelves. A much more believable number than the 2.32M we have on shelves now.

Edit: It would also put 510K Wiis on shelves, as opposed to 880K. Though, either number is probably acceptable for a system that has started to sell as slowly as the Wii.

it's cool mate. we are all on the same team. i was kind of expecting you anyway lol.

that would me vgc was right before ioi madethe adjustments. off by 300k for 360 but spot on for PS3. that would be the first time PS3 wasn't undertracked completely lol.

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shanbcn on 31 January 2013

ethomaz said:

Gaf:

Xbox country:

UK
55% 360
45% PS3

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PS3 zone:

Belgium
78% PS3
22% 360

Spain
74% PS3
26% 360

France
67% PS3
33% 360

Germany
67% PS3
33% 360

Netherlands
64% PS3
36% 360

Italy
59% PS3
41% 360

Its clear 360 doesnt dominate PS3 in uk as much as PS3 dominate 360 in other countries.

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zhao3gold on 31 January 2013

To Shanbcn:

So what? It is clear that 360 is gaining marketshare in every country. Still a victory.

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D-Joe said:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=510874&page=2
I wish someone can throw the taiwan 2011 software charts to neogaf so they can stop think every Asia countries=Japan like
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=139503
And sadly i only have taiwan 2011 Jan~July hardware sales,and it just about 360 since it reported by MS Taiwan in August 23 2011(i saw some people in taiwan forum said 360 was 2011 full year no.1 but he doesn't posted any picture or report so i can't take it for real yet)
http://i.minus.com/iOt60TWwpeTI5.JPG(picture too big)

Anyway if GFK throw 2012 hardware/software numbers in taiwan or even hong kong i will post it

I would, but it takes ages to make an account on NeoGaf.

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Troll_Whisperer on 31 January 2013

So VGC was overtracking everything in the US and undertracking everything in Europe basically.

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SxyxS on 31 January 2013

teigaga said:

guiduc said:

Somini said:

guiduc said:
Europe... the land of Sony... *sigh

What's to sigh about?

As a diehard Nintendo fanboy it's quite difficult to overlook the unhealthy path sales are takin. That is, of course, 3DS apart.

I hate it when people refer to Europe has the land of sony. How about their console is favoured because its arguably the best value for money? Bluray+all the 3rd party titles+ More 1st party titles then any other system+ Plus free online, all at a very competetive price.

From the success of nintendo with the wii/ds/3DS (All of which outsell/outsold the ps3), its clear that its simply down to Nintendo's failing to delivering s enticing console regarding the Wii U and its launch.

You are right.Europe is not sony land.

If you take a look at tv's or mobiles:both dominated by samsung,sony far behind.

It's just about the value and the fact that MS is not able to manipulate people with the media like they can in anglosaxon countries thx to Rupert Murdoch and friends.

They tell the people:you don't need wifi,hdmi,blu ray,rrod is allright,noisy console is a must and paying for online gaming is great,kinect is amazing(lol)

That's why the only europe country the 360 is outselling ps3 is murdoch media dominated UK,great in USA and good in Australia.But in most other countries far away from being no1.

In the rest of europe the market is growing in a pretty normal way.Nintendo performed great in the beginning,360 on a pretty constant level,ps3 pretty bad in the beginning with a lousy lineup,performing better year after year.

I think it is good just as it is now.360 big in USA,ps3 in europe,nintendo in japan.diversity and competetion is what we need for good quality.(Only problem-3ds is too strong.therfore I hope wii U sales will go up to 30% marketshare for a constant 3rd party support and 3ds down to 65%.The lower the 3ds sales ,the bigger the pressure,the greater the chance that the next 3ds redesign will have 2 analogsticks and an achievement like system.

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zuvuyeay on 04 February 2013

i like the nintendo figures and charts time,good to see,they don't cover all of what vgc covers for europe though do they

360 can grow even more in europe if they have a good launch that is plain to see form the graphs

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