"I'm so not jealous of AMD"
-nVidia

well,a guy who is trying to sell a new product with almost no future is describing just the scenario his product needs to be succesfull.-how surprising!

but I think he is right ,but in a completely different way.
If the graphics of the next gen are as strong as I suppose it really could be the last Gen because the graphic level will be so high that there will be no need for another gen.
The closer you get to the max,the more expensive is any further step and the less room you have to improve.
imo crysis 3 (pc)looks very good and some in game scenes could be used in cgi movies and noone will complain and most won't even realize that it is realtime.

Yes there are interessting things like raytracing or voxel engines(not minecraft) but they don't look
so much better to make me buy buy a ps560.
I like great graphics but I don't need more than games that look like crysis3(and there may be even better looking games)and I think most will think the same way.
And no-i'm not interessted in photorealistic graphics(if i was i wouldn't watch current cgi movies).As soon as games or cgi movies come close to photorealistic
people won't honour the high graphic level(maybe the very first will be a sensation)-instead people will start to compare the graphics with reality and real movies and they will find out that the
photorealistic games does not look as reality (too perfect,too sterile),missing all these little things that makes nature unique.

(maybe i'm wrong and there will be a ps560,but this will be definitivly the last gen because of the high graphic standard.)

Here the reason...

AMD Expects Game Consoles to Account for Nearly 20% of Revenue This Year

Just this year... the AMD revenue will explode next year with Nextbox and PS4... both CPU and GPU.

This is one of the most misleading thread titles I've ever seen.

Nvidia said that making very custom hardware for consoles is not practical anymore, and that consoles will continue to move closer towards their PC counterparts as far as parts are concerned.

But this: "PS2 had a 100 times higher performance than the most powerful PC" was hilarious.

wfz said: This is one of the most misleading thread titles I've ever seen. Nvidia said that making very custom hardware for consoles is not practical anymore, and that consoles will continue to move closer towards their PC counterparts as far as parts are concerned. But this: "PS2 had a 100 times higher performance than the most powerful PC" was hilarious.

Yeah, I'm surprised nobody jumped on that PS2 comment beforehand!

I do believe that dedicated handhelds are going away shortly but home consoles will stay in some form or another. Also, I laughed at AMD comments in this thread, might be the simplest explanation for his stance.

I edited the title of the thread because it was misleading.

What does AMD have to do with any of this? He just said that the internals will be based more on PC's in future. Which is true. Doubt we will see anything like the cell again. It just makes developing games more expensive and complicated. Even with the extra power the cell had at launch, it doesn't make financial sense to do it anymore. It even mentions it in the article. But nah let's just read the thread title (which has been changed) and comment.

Nintendo chose AMD
Microsoft chose AMD
Sony chose AMD

Nvidia complains that custom hardware for game consoles isn't feasible.

I wonder how AMD feels about it.

Yea, and all but the WiiU CPU seem to be very similar to off-the-shelf products from AMD. There should be some few customizations, but there is no new custom from the ground up designed HW for the next gen consoles anymore, unlike in PS2 or PS3.

I'm not sure what the 3DS is using, but the Vita uses a Tegra 3 with a PowerVR GPU on the same die, which both again are off-the-shelf products, just usually not combined like this.