curl-6 said:
Nuvendil said:
See I categorically disagree. As someone who only played all these games in the last 10 months and has no fond memories or nostalgia, I find Ocarina of Time to have aged worse than most describe. Not badly, mind. But it hasn't "not aged a day.". Characters and writing? There ARE no characters, just a collection of faces with basic, one note personalities that can be summed up in one sentence. And the story is beyond plot centered, it is almost exclusively plot focused. There's some OK world building but every last one of the Zeldas since surpass it in all areas of writing. The only thing it " has going for it" is the quick pace at the start but honestly, it feels more like a lack of any development of any kind.
Dungeon quality and number is probably the greatest strength. Here it can match and in Wind Waker and Majora's cases surpass its successors. But honestly, while they are challenging, they are a less interesting type of challenge compared to Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword.
And the over world of Hyrule Field is the most ruthlessly lacking one of all the 3D Zeldas. Twilight Princess usually gets more flack for this but honestly, at least there you have a few mini dungeon type things and some environmental puzzles or obstacles to reach secrets and chests. Ocarina of Time is just a big vast void with just the ranch to break it up. It's smaller, yeah, but it's emptier.
Combat in OoT definitely holds up better than it has any right to for a game from a console with just one analogue stick :P. But the Twilight Princess and Wind Waker iterations are far more polished, especially TP.
In terms of art direction, I feel every 3D Zelda has more of an identity. That includes Majora's Mask.
Honestly, a lot of my quibbles come down I think to the game being built to PUSH the hardware in order to show off rather than maximize the potential. Majora's Mask franklyfeels more like it did the latter.
Anyway, those are my thoughts :P
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I don't play Zelda games for the story, so I'm not bothered by the lack of a deeper narrative in OoT. It has an epic high fantasy vibe and some amusing characters, that's about all I ask for in a game of this type.
Hyrule Field may have been quite empty due to hardware limitations, but seeing it sprawl out before me for the first time was a breathtaking moment, and it still had a couple of hidden caves and baddies throughout, and at night the skeletons came out to play.
As for the art style, while again hardware limits need to be taken into account, I still feel that Ocarina and Twilight Princess have the ideal look for the series; colourful enough to be lively and charming, but "dark" enough to be epic and dramatic.
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Oh I know story isn't as important in Zelda as in other games. But it IS a part and deserves scrutiny. Twilight Princess has great gameplay, excellent dungeon design, and so many other exceptional gameplay elements but has a story that engaged me, a villain that was interesting and intimidating and had what I think was a fascinating deconstruction, a companion who is an excellent character not just for a Zelda game but for any game. So yeah, I can understand it not being crucial but it is there and can and has been better than OoT.
That's where I differ I think. For me, it wasn't breathtaking cause I've played numerous big open world games including Wind Waker and the pseudo-open Twilight Princess. In fact, I was kinda stunned how close some things were at times :P. So for me, there was no wow facto except when consider it was a 3DS game.
Art style isn't bad mind you, I just don't see as much distinct flavor as pretty much all the others. I actually think I prefer the Skyward Sword style, despite the hardware clearly limiting how far they could push it. But the BotW art style is the best so far I think. Has a distinct flavor, bold use of color, highly expressive, yet still has plenty of potential to be serious.
But all this goes back to what I said earlierl: I don't think OoT stands up in a straight comparison of the games as they sit right now, but I do think that of all the 3D Zeldas OoT is the most prominent when compared to the peers of its day.