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Do you think Homosexuality can be cured?

WHAT?? You can't cure it. 61 31.77%
 
You Can't, Homosexuality is a Choice 9 4.69%
 
No, it's just a matter o... 39 20.31%
 
Yes, Through Psychological/Social Therapy 19 9.90%
 
Yes, Through Drugs, It's... 8 4.17%
 
Yes, though Genetic Modifications 9 4.69%
 
Yes, though Drugs & T... 6 3.13%
 
I'm not sure 8 4.17%
 
See Results 33 17.19%
 
Total:192
Michael-5 on 22 January 2013
Boutros said:
 

Don't you think that what should be cured isn't the actual sexual orientation but the negative perception people have of homosexuality?

Imagine a vaccine that would make all those unhappy homosexuals accept who they are instead of changing who they are.

That's the best option if you really want to be proactive.

Why not cure both? This inly furthur increases the freedom people have.

Jay520 said:


I thought we've been over this? It's not a disorder UNLESS the person is unhappy with his or her sexuality. If the person is happy, then there is no disorder.

Sure, but regardless it's still a biological Disruption from the established normal. People become homosexuals because of some error, somewhere, but is that a bad thing? Only when you make it so.

Jay520 said:

Excellent post. I pretty much agree with this. Though I'd like to add that while I don't think introversion is a disorder, I do believe people should have the opportunity to change themselves to extroverts if they want. Same goes for homosexuality. Sure, some people may not be happy with it and some may want to change, but that doesn't mean it should be labelled a disorder.

Yay, finally we've establish agreements. Now that you see me my things, except for the actual classification of the genectic discruption known as homosexuality (is it a condition, a defect?), do you finally see my point of view?

I guess calling it a disorder is extreme, but it's still something. It's still a defect if you ask me, but evelutionary defect are acceptable, so why should humans judge differently? Aren't Freckles also a defect? If you want to remove your Freckles, I think you should be able to.

However like Freckles, I still view homosexuality and an undesired trait, but that's just me. Just so I'm clear, I'm fine with gay people, but I would never want to be gay, and I don't see why anyone should (just like why should anyone want freckles?).

Serious_frusting said:
Can being gay be cured? Nope. Well not yet anyway.

Should this condition be cured if it ever becomes possible?
Well yh, it should to be honest. Of course unless the person is a full grown adult and does not want the streatment.

With that said, I don't have issues with gays. Like I don't haave issues with anyone with any other medical condition like adhd.

I 100% agree, and this is a reflection of my own opinion.



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fordy on 22 January 2013
Michael-5 said:
fordy said:
 


The difference is (in your albinoism example earlier), that Albinos would probably choose based on medical conditions. If an albino chose to become "normal" because he was being outcast by society, then I see that as society's fault. Same with homosexuality. Unfortuntely, the majority of homosexuals who want to be hetero do it because of outside influence, or opression from society, since there really is little to no medical reason to change from becoming homosexual. It's generally a push from society into forcing people into a narrow view, and that only has a negative impact on diversity. I'd love to hear your thoughts on my suffrage example, since we are in similar times with homosexuality. If there were something to turn women into men at the times when suffrage was being debated, would it have affected the rights of women? The difference is, something would be enacted to keep women as women (because no women = no new generation), but I wouldn't see anything smiliar occuring if homosexuals gave up their fight for equal power and became heterosexual.

Unfortunately you cannot draw a line in this situation. Forcibly administering treatment goes against personal liberties, but if the individual is a danger to those around them, it is negligent to let said person make the first move and possibly murder somebody before treatment is administered. then there's other possibilities such as lifestyle changes that could help control conditions. I wouldn't go as far as making any treatment mandatory, but something would need to be devised on when treatment should be administered against individual consent (and not be abused, like giving a legitimate reason to administer treatment for homosexuality).

Well, you're right, comparing homosexuality to albinoism isn't fair because most Albino's probably want to be "cured" where only a fraction (won't even debate the size) of homosexuals want to be....normalized (be a part of the heterosexual normal, the average). However your sufferage example would be hard to explain to people, and most people would just ignore it and say " He's Anit-Gay."

Aside: Heck, people have been turning what I have to say around all though this debate because they don;t understand, or don;t both to read my comments. For example, I don't believe there is a Gay Gene, but in the other thread, almost every response (especially from this one guy Tom3K) started off with "There is no Gay Gene!" and then an arguement was presented. Who are they arguing with?

On Topic: With your suffrage example....I don't think people should be able to change their genders, but in this day and age, we're letting a lot of freaks do whatever they want and accepting it. Regardless, this is different from being a homosexual because in the sufforage example, those women who became gay are doing it for voting rights. Remaining homosexual, or conterting to be a heterosexual gains you no marriage rights (In Canada), no voting rights, no diability rights, no tax breaks, nothing.

 

As for your coments on forced treatment for homosexuality, well....what can you say? When is homosexuality ever dangerous? If a homosexual is being abused, I think the problem is the abuser, not the homosexual. I don't see any condition where we should force an individual to live a heterosexual life.

I think the gender changing is yet another condition. I actually have a niece who always identified herself as a boy, and is planning gender reassignment in the near future. Would I consider it freaky? No, I'd consider it another state of mind, just like homosexuality. It's not hard to imagine, however, considering at one stage of conception, we are all a "single gender" and changed into our gender stages by genetic and hormonal influences. Anything is possible there. Check out hormonal influences and the effects it has on Spotted Hyenas.

Back to topic, places where homosexuality is accepted I don't see any problem with. However, places where homosexuality is still shunned upon in society, the society should learn to accept before they are allowed any treatment to be administered in such places. 

When is homosexuality ever dangerous? It never is. Will some individuals of society try to justify it is in order to turn people hetero? Absolutely! Whether it's by seperate means, all in the name of administering such a drug...



fordy on 22 January 2013
Serious_frusting said:
Can being gay be cured? Nope. Well not yet anyway.

Should this condition be cured if it ever becomes possible?
Well yh, it should to be honest. Of course unless the person is a full grown adult and does not want the streatment.

With that said, I don't have issues with gays. Like I don't haave issues with anyone with any other medical condition like adhd.


Would you advocate allowing parents to administer it to their children, as they have the legal authority?



Gribble on 22 January 2013
NintendoPie said:
Gribble said:

By stating that homosexuality could be cured, you are saying that it IS a problem when in fact it's just part of this diverse and wonderful world we live in. 'If it's your choice, we can change it.' Yeah, because homosexuals simply wake up one day and pick who they want to love. 'If it's something that's been put onto you, we can change that.' Because they are there in the shadows with sharp teeth, preying on unsuspecting heterosexuals. 

'Does that mean I want to change it? No, I think it's perfectly fine'. How big of you.

Should we cure heterosexuality? After reading through this thread, without a doubt.

'How is wanting a cure for homosexuality any different from wanting a cure for Albinoism'

Jesus H Christ!

You took my comments in a completely wrong direction. Please at least take note of what I've said in this thread before you try to judge me. If you read any of my other posts you would, hopefully, know that I'm not against Homosexuality in any way shape or form. I'm all for those type of people. They hurt no one and they are exactly like us, other than the obvious sexuality choices which, again, I don't mind.

Edit: Are you not going to answer me? OK.

'I Don't mind.'

Sorry, but you just don't get it. It's not your fault, it's how the world has made you. And I don't mean that in a nasty way. Bottom line: We are all equal. There is NO valid discussion here. It's an insult to human being to even have a thread like this.



Euphoria14 on 22 January 2013
NintendoPie said:
Euphoria14 said:


No offense to those who live their lives based on it, but tell that to those who live their lived based on a 2000+ year old book...

That's pretty offensive to those people.

I'm religious and, based off of my comments in this thread, would you think I'm ignorant to this subject like you're implying?


I am only sayin that nobody has the right to tell anyone how they should or shouldn't live their lives.



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NintendoPie on 22 January 2013
Gribble said:

'I Don't mind.'

Sorry, but you just don't get it. It's not your fault, it's how the world has made you.

Please, explain! What has the world "made me"? And what do I not get? This just sounds like you are trying to find something to call me out on.



NintendoPie on 22 January 2013
Euphoria14 said:


I am only sayin that nobody has the right to tell anyone how they should or shouldn't live their lives.

Which I agree with! But, when you mentioned the Bible (or religion, basically) it made it seem like you were trying to say that Religious people are against Homosexuals.



fordy on 22 January 2013

On the subject of a "cure" for homosexuality, I'm surprised that it's the main issue at the top of the "cure list", out of all the other bad things in the world....

How about a cure for Greed? I think the world would become a much better place overnight.



Euphoria14 on 22 January 2013
Michael-5 said:
Euphoria14 said:
I say back the fuck off and let people live the lives they want. Who are any of you to tell someone how they should live their lives?

My brother ( changed his name legally to a female name) has been dressing in girls clothing since he was 4 hasn't change at all. I take that as him being who he/she is, and nobodys bullshit religious and/or scientific view will ever change that. He is who he is and nobody's bullshit reasoning will EVER change that.

Leave them be and worry about your own problems, because we all know damn well, you're not as perfect as you might think.

I'm not telling people how to live their lives, but you are. I'm saying why not change the people who with to be changed, but you're saying all people born homosexual MUST stay homosexual?

Who's restricting the individuals freedoms here?

Euphoria14 said:
By the way, reading this thread has truly worried me. My little girl is left handed.

Anyone hits her for that and I I'll gladly go to jail for kicking the shit out of them.

Yeah, she is left handed, but she far ahead of the rest of her class and and her teachers have repeatedly told me such.

Why would anyone hit your left handed sister? Having violent people in the community who want to physically harm left handed or homosexual individuals is a completly different issue then being Left Handed and wanting to be Right Handed, or being Gay and wanting to be straight.

I agree with you, we need to accept gay people the way we accept left handed people, and we definatly need to punish those who want to harm these people.

First off, isn't my sister.

Second, I  not telling anyone how to live their life. If someone is "homosexual" who is anyone to say it is wrong?

You saying that im telling the to live their lives that way is off base.

 

All I am saying is to mind your own business and live your own life and allow them to live theirs without giving your own misunderstood opinion on how their mind and emotions work.



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Gribble on 22 January 2013
NintendoPie said:
Gribble said:

'I Don't mind.'

Sorry, but you just don't get it. It's not your fault, it's how the world has made you.

Please, explain! What has the world "made me"? And what do I not get? This just sounds like you are trying to find something to call me out on.

It has NOTHING to do with you. Homosexuals don't care if you 'don't mind'. It's dismissive and patronising. I have had many homosexual friends over the years but I wouldn't have kept many if I'd said to them 'I don't mind' that you're Homosexual. You know what I did? They were my friends!