Honestly, after reading every comment here, I don't even care about specs at all anymore. What does it really change? Not much. What matters more is what makes it different than its competition. What games will it offer? There's no point in getting a super-powered PC if no games you want require them. Same thing applies here, so observing the specs to me seems pointless. All it tells me is some made-up concept of "potential" people have for the systems.

Not even sure why you are in a thread about rumored specs in the first place then. And discussing potential of a system is the most fun we can have with 'leaks' of info until we get official reveals and games. I'm sure both systems will do well on that front too, both first and third party.

From Neogaf:

Originally Posted by Karak: View Post

Sure. It was reiterated to me that MS was fully behind doing everything the same like they did in the first few years of the Xbox 360 and that MS knows that is what got them a good deal of backing when the system first came out. That is the 4th or 5th time I was informed that.
I was told there is a very even split between new IP's and faithful IP's. And 3-4 big surprises.


If this is true...Grinch smile!

http://www.moviepropcollectors.com/magazine/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/GrinchMeanSmile.jpg

Hype!!!!!

I just wanted to see what it's about, but it seems like everyone's running in circles.  I mean, I am not against people looking at specs and observing what they may mean.  Don't mind people getting excited for it, but there are a whole lot of uncalled-for things here as well, and especially on the neogaf threads.

From the diagram....

HDMI 1.4a = 3D capable
8 Core X64 at 1.6 GHz = Average processor, but high multi-tasking capabilities
GPU = Highly capable for gaming
50 Gb, 6x Blu-Ray drive = Mandatory installs are now a norm and games will probably get longer again
8 GB of RAM = Nice amount of space for games to work within
WiFi N support = Fast wireless speeds (Hope it is dual band like Surface)
Gigabit Wired = Nice wired speeds
USB 3.0 = Let's hope MS now supports any HD size for 720
HDMI 1.4a input = Interesting... Is this for loopback?

Essentially the whole thing looks like a computer optimized for gaming and multimedia whereas the current 360 was a computer optimized for gaming. Microsoft proved this gen that the architecture of the whole console was important (not just the processor). Although MS' 360 processor paled in comparison the 360 and PS3 ended up being fairly similar in capabilities. Let's hope MS does the same this gen.

@bold: can you be specific? I'm not even sure what this could mean really

This is a thread to discuss rumors..obviously there will be a lot of back and forth arguments. Coming into it and saying the tech and potential of a system does not matter makes no sense though. It matters a lot as it can have an impact on gameplay and visuals. We can't discuss games when we haven't even had an official unveiling :D

720 6X WIIU
PS4 10X WIIU

These specs are real everybody, you can be in denial all you want but the ps4 will be by far the most powerful console nextgen.

Keep dreaming!!!

Sounds like Durango's "secret sauce" lies within it's blitter (aka: 4x data move engines). If they can have a comparable amount of bandwidth between RAM and GPU while simultaneously doubling the RAM then that can become an area of exploitation by devs.


From: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-next-gen-xbox-specs-leak

"In the case of Durango, the CPU is married up with 8GB of DDR3 memory, working in concert with 32MB of what is dubbed "ESRAM" - fast work RAM connected directly to the GPU. The two pools of memory operate in parallel, and while we haven't confirmed overall bandwidth, the leak's 170GB/s throughput certainly seems plausible. Also interesting about the RAM set-up is that the ESRAM isn't merely connected to the graphics core as is the case with the Xbox 360's 10MB of eDRAM - in Durango, it's hooked up to the northbridge (the interconnect between all major internal components), meaning it offers general access to other components in addition to the graphics core."


And that above statement didn't even take into account the 4x data move engines, which they later on go on to claim to know very little as to how it works. One thing I'm certain of is that purely reading spec numbers from a paper is not going to cut it anymore.