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Persistantthug on 22 January 2013
J_Allard said:
No? You bought the stuff for the PS3, not the PS4.

 

--The games I bought from Apple's Online store for my IPHONE 3gs works for my IPHONE 5

--The games I bought frome STEAM for my Windows XP computer works for my new Windows 8 PC computer and new PC laptop.

--I'm very confident the games I bought from XBOX LIVE for my XBOX 360 will work for my XBOX 3.

--The stuff I bought from Nintendo's online store for my Wii will work on a Wii U.

 

Why is Sony supposed to get a free pass to diverge from this apparent INDUSTRY STANDARD?

Why does this change for Sony?



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richardhutnik on 22 January 2013
Persistantthug said:

I am a huge PS3 fan. You could even label me a PS3 fanboy if you like....that's been fair at times.

But if Sony cannot figure out how to make the stuff we bought out from their store work for the PS4, then I will never buy anything from their online store again.
I don't really care how they get it done....whether through GAIKAI, straight emulation....I've even heard rumors of some dongle'ish attachment thing, and that might be acceptable....maybe.

If Sony can't figure it out, then they've misappropriated consumer trust in their online shit, AGAIN.

And if that's the case, considering how important online has become, and is further becoming in the future, I might as well not even bother with a PS4, because it would be more of Sony Online Incompetence.

Sony better figure it out.....Move Heaven and Earth if need be.....they had better.

PS....A credit refund would also be acceptable.

Do you feel the same?  Explain.

Compensated how?  If hurt feelings, and broken trust alone, are a basis for getting compensated, then there is not enough money in the world to pay that off, irregardless of how much quantitative easing the U.S Federal Reserve does.

Basic tip here: Expect your company of choice for consoles to make numerous decisions that will bother any annoy you.



J_Allard on 22 January 2013
Persistantthug said:
J_Allard said:
No? You bought the stuff for the PS3, not the PS4.

 

--The games I bought from Apple's Online store for my IPHONE 3gs works for my IPHONE 5

--The games I bought frome STEAM for my Windows XP computer works for my new Windows 8 PC computer and new PC laptop.

--I'm very confident the games I bought from XBOX LIVE for my XBOX 360 will work for my XBOX 3.

--The stuff I bought from Nintendo's online store for my Wii will work on a Wii U.

 

Why is Sony supposed to get a free pass to diverge from this apparent INDUSTRY STANDARD?

Why does this change for Sony?

For starters, no, what you can do in the mobile market and PC market do not apply to the console market. So those are in no way an "industry standard". The architecture and OS of the PS4 will not be the same as the PS3, so there goes the Apple/Windows analogies. And who knows about the Xbox.

 

Nintendo does use the same stuff for all the Wii/Wii-U/3DS, so you can transfer most stuff downloaded to the Wii-U, since it is backwards compatible with the Wii. But that doesn't mean the same applies to PS4. They better have a new OS, a new store, and a radically improved architecture over PS3. And who knows if it will even play PS3 games.

 

If all else fails just don't buy a PS4?



Persistantthug on 22 January 2013
J_Allard said:
Persistantthug said:
J_Allard said:
No? You bought the stuff for the PS3, not the PS4.

 

--The games I bought from Apple's Online store for my IPHONE 3gs works for my IPHONE 5

--The games I bought frome STEAM for my Windows XP computer works for my new Windows 8 PC computer and new PC laptop.

--I'm very confident the games I bought from XBOX LIVE for my XBOX 360 will work for my XBOX 3.

--The stuff I bought from Nintendo's online store for my Wii will work on a Wii U.

 

Why is Sony supposed to get a free pass to diverge from this apparent INDUSTRY STANDARD?

Why does this change for Sony?

For starters, no, what you can do in the mobile market and PC market do not apply to the console market. So those are in no way an "industry standard". The architecture and OS of the PS4 will not be the same as the PS3, so there goes the Apple/Windows analogies. And who knows about the Xbox.

 

Nintendo does use the same stuff for all the Wii/Wii-U/3DS, so you can transfer most stuff downloaded to the Wii-U, since it is backwards compatible with the Wii. But that doesn't mean the same applies to PS4. They better have a new OS, a new store, and a radically improved architecture over PS3. And who knows if it will even play PS3 games.

 

If all else fails just don't buy a PS4?


You're trying to throw STEAM and ISTORE out of the picture, but they sell games online.....that makes them relevant here.

Nintendo is obviously relevent.

Microsoft is using the same architecture, so the likelyhood of them being B/C at least with their online material, is almost a given.

 

So my point, is if Sony doesn't......they'll be the lone fool here.

That's bad.  

Very bad.



KHlover on 22 January 2013
Persistantthug said:
J_Allard said:
Persistantthug said:
J_Allard said:
No? You bought the stuff for the PS3, not the PS4.

 

--The games I bought from Apple's Online store for my IPHONE 3gs works for my IPHONE 5

--The games I bought frome STEAM for my Windows XP computer works for my new Windows 8 PC computer and new PC laptop.

--I'm very confident the games I bought from XBOX LIVE for my XBOX 360 will work for my XBOX 3.

--The stuff I bought from Nintendo's online store for my Wii will work on a Wii U.

 

Why is Sony supposed to get a free pass to diverge from this apparent INDUSTRY STANDARD?

Why does this change for Sony?

For starters, no, what you can do in the mobile market and PC market do not apply to the console market. So those are in no way an "industry standard". The architecture and OS of the PS4 will not be the same as the PS3, so there goes the Apple/Windows analogies. And who knows about the Xbox.

 

Nintendo does use the same stuff for all the Wii/Wii-U/3DS, so you can transfer most stuff downloaded to the Wii-U, since it is backwards compatible with the Wii. But that doesn't mean the same applies to PS4. They better have a new OS, a new store, and a radically improved architecture over PS3. And who knows if it will even play PS3 games.

 

If all else fails just don't buy a PS4?


You're trying to throw STEAM and ISTORE out of the picture, but they sell games online.....that makes them relevant here.

Nintendo is obviously relevent.

Microsoft is using the same architecture, so the likelyhood of them being B/C at least with their online material, is almost a given.

 

So my point, is if Sony doesn't......they'll be the lone fool here.

That's bad.  

Very bad.

Isn't that what many of us say about XBL? It won't hurt Sony.



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J_Allard on 22 January 2013
Persistantthug said:
J_Allard said:
Persistantthug said:
J_Allard said:
No? You bought the stuff for the PS3, not the PS4.

 

--The games I bought from Apple's Online store for my IPHONE 3gs works for my IPHONE 5

--The games I bought frome STEAM for my Windows XP computer works for my new Windows 8 PC computer and new PC laptop.

--I'm very confident the games I bought from XBOX LIVE for my XBOX 360 will work for my XBOX 3.

--The stuff I bought from Nintendo's online store for my Wii will work on a Wii U.

 

Why is Sony supposed to get a free pass to diverge from this apparent INDUSTRY STANDARD?

Why does this change for Sony?

For starters, no, what you can do in the mobile market and PC market do not apply to the console market. So those are in no way an "industry standard". The architecture and OS of the PS4 will not be the same as the PS3, so there goes the Apple/Windows analogies. And who knows about the Xbox.

 

Nintendo does use the same stuff for all the Wii/Wii-U/3DS, so you can transfer most stuff downloaded to the Wii-U, since it is backwards compatible with the Wii. But that doesn't mean the same applies to PS4. They better have a new OS, a new store, and a radically improved architecture over PS3. And who knows if it will even play PS3 games.

 

If all else fails just don't buy a PS4?


You're trying to throw STEAM and ISTORE out of the picture, but they sell games online.....that makes them relevant here.

Nintendo is obviously relevent.

Microsoft is using the same architecture, so the likelyhood of them being B/C at least with their online material, is almost a given.

 

So my point, is if Sony doesn't......they'll be the lone fool here.

That's bad.  

Very bad.


Console market is not the mobile/PC market. About as simply as it can be put. And we'll wait and see with MS. Never said Nintendo wasn't relevant.



Persistantthug on 22 January 2013
J_Allard said:
Persistantthug said:
J_Allard said:
Persistantthug said:
J_Allard said:
No? You bought the stuff for the PS3, not the PS4.

 

--The games I bought from Apple's Online store for my IPHONE 3gs works for my IPHONE 5

--The games I bought frome STEAM for my Windows XP computer works for my new Windows 8 PC computer and new PC laptop.

--I'm very confident the games I bought from XBOX LIVE for my XBOX 360 will work for my XBOX 3.

--The stuff I bought from Nintendo's online store for my Wii will work on a Wii U.

 

Why is Sony supposed to get a free pass to diverge from this apparent INDUSTRY STANDARD?

Why does this change for Sony?

For starters, no, what you can do in the mobile market and PC market do not apply to the console market. So those are in no way an "industry standard". The architecture and OS of the PS4 will not be the same as the PS3, so there goes the Apple/Windows analogies. And who knows about the Xbox.

 

Nintendo does use the same stuff for all the Wii/Wii-U/3DS, so you can transfer most stuff downloaded to the Wii-U, since it is backwards compatible with the Wii. But that doesn't mean the same applies to PS4. They better have a new OS, a new store, and a radically improved architecture over PS3. And who knows if it will even play PS3 games.

 

If all else fails just don't buy a PS4?


You're trying to throw STEAM and ISTORE out of the picture, but they sell games online.....that makes them relevant here.

Nintendo is obviously relevent.

Microsoft is using the same architecture, so the likelyhood of them being B/C at least with their online material, is almost a given.

 

So my point, is if Sony doesn't......they'll be the lone fool here.

That's bad.  

Very bad.


Console market is not the mobile/PC market. About as simply as it can be put. And we'll wait and see with MS. Never said Nintendo wasn't relevant.

 

I can agree that the mobile market is different, and to a degree I can agree that the PC market is somewhat different too.....

But both, along with Nintendo, and likely Microsoft, still provide a piece of this INDUSTRY STANDARD.

 

So far, were are 3/3 with it, and MIcrosoft will make 4/4.

If Sony stiffs us on the shit we've bought, they'll be the only one.  And I predict they will suffer for it, because then it means Sony can't be trusted as a vendor.....again.



J_Allard on 22 January 2013

Industry standard for mobile market, PC market, portable console market, and home console market, are all different things.



WagnerPaiva on 22 January 2013
Persistantthug said:
J_Allard said:
No? You bought the stuff for the PS3, not the PS4.

 

--The games I bought from Apple's Online store for my IPHONE 3gs works for my IPHONE 5

--The games I bought frome STEAM for my Windows XP computer works for my new Windows 8 PC computer and new PC laptop.

--I'm very confident the games I bought from XBOX LIVE for my XBOX 360 will work for my XBOX 3.

--The stuff I bought from Nintendo's online store for my Wii will work on a Wii U.

 

Why is Sony supposed to get a free pass to diverge from this apparent INDUSTRY STANDARD?

Why does this change for Sony?

The games clearlly say what consoles they will work on. Stop buying Sony stuff and buy only Apple, let us see what quality gaming experience those guys will provide you...



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

WagnerPaiva on 22 January 2013
J_Allard said:
Nintendo does use the same stuff for all the Wii/Wii-U/3DS, so you can transfer most stuff downloaded to the Wii-U, since it is backwards compatible with the Wii. But that doesn't mean the same applies to PS4. They better have a new OS, a new store, and a radically improved architecture over PS3. And who knows if it will even play PS3 games.

 

If all else fails just don't buy a PS4?


I agree 100% with what you are saying. 



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.