| Jay520 said:
1. I'm not sure what you mean here. I never said a creator wouldn't be worthy of praise. 2. I'm not making the argument that the universe is more powerful than the a creator. I'm not saying that there's anything at all more powerful than a Creator. It's possible that there's nothing that exists which is stronger than a Creator, but does that mean the Creator is all-powerful? Not necessarily, depending on your definition of "all-powerful." If your definition of "all-powerful" is being more powerful than anything that exists, then I wouldn't argue against it (frankly because I'm not interested in assuming the "power" of the universe). However, if your definition of "all-powerful" is having the ability to create anything, then we cannot say for sure whether a Creator follows such a definition. We cannot know whether or not the Creator has the ability to create things that he hasn't yet created. It's possible that he had the ability, but simply decided not to create something. But it's also possible that he lacked the ability, and thus could not create that very same thing. 3. What do you mean "it all makes sense"? |
1. I didn't say you did. I was just answering your question. But my 2 is a better answer than my 1 imho.
2. I wasn't saying you were saying that. Again, I was answering your question. I was explaining that if a being could outgrow its creator, something in the universe allowed him that, and as such that law of the universe needed to be guided by a source. Therefore, there must have been a greater creator. Meaning that an almighty creator is required for the origins to work.
That's what I mean by it all makes sense. I mean it all holds together like a building.
My def of all-powerful is, among other things, that there is nothing more powerful than he, because if so, he would not be all powerful.







