Those numbers are pathetic! I really hope they aren't true for any of the consoles.
(Minus 3DS, maybe.)
Those numbers are pathetic! I really hope they aren't true for any of the consoles.
(Minus 3DS, maybe.)
Soleron said:
It got revised to "more than one". |
Well, damn. That must be a fairly big loss then and at only 50$ below the 360 launch price.
I find it strange that people are downplaying the hardware loss like they are for a few reasons;
1: Nintendo depend solely on their gaming income, its their only business venture and provides all their revenue (and incurrs all loses).
2: They haven't really gotten a very good hardware package for their buck, the gamepad must be pricy to produce indeed. This could prove a very dire decision since it appears that the gamepad isn't firing people up much at all and certainly nothing like the Wii-mote.
3: Sony were lashed for the longest time for selling a console at a loss, it was deemed disastrous and a stupid company move (which, to be honest, it was).
4: The hardware appears to be moving a lot slower than Nintendo themselves have projected, this gives them a huge problem since they have little to no wiggle room with pricing and have a cloudy release slate for most of 2013.
5: They are competing directly with the current generation of consoles and will also be competing with the next generation, a historically unique position for a console to be in and likely not one to count towards Nintendo's favor. The 360 and PS3 appear to be absolute steals when the three are juxtaposed by consumers.
Overall, like I've been saying since long before the Wii U launched; Nintendo are not in a very good position now and need to put all their effort into staying relevant globally. They stand a very real chance of becoming an obscurity in Europe, being dominated by a Microsoft console in the Americas and being slapped by handhelds and tablet/phone games in the East. They also betrayed their followers by going directly against their own sentiments from only a couple of years back (will continue software support for the Wii, will live for at least as long as the PS360 etc). Now, this is not a doom prophecy but it should be crystal clear to anyone with half a mind towards observation and business that they need to do something quite soon.
| ninjablade said: nintendo is gonna have to slash the price by a 100$, if that doesn't work its pretty much over for them this gen. |
They won't slash the price by 100$ so soon, that would be ludicrous. I could see getting rid of the Basic model and dropping the Deluxe down 50$. That's all they really need to do.
And it wouldn't be over for them, 3DS is going strong.
| pezus said: A $50/50 Euro E3 price cut or a pre-E3 cut has to happen. If not, all attention will shift towards Sony and MS's next consoles. |
I doubt Nintendo would want that to happen. Some type of card will be played by Nintendo before the release of MS/Sony's new consoles.
Mummelmann said:
I find it strange that people are downplaying the hardware loss like they are for a few reasons; 1: Nintendo depend solely on their gaming income, its their only business venture and provides all their revenue (and incurrs all loses). 2: They haven't really gotten a very good hardware package for their buck, the gamepad must be pricy to produce indeed. This could prove a very dire decision since it appears that the gamepad isn't firing people up much at all and certainly nothing like the Wii-mote. Raw material cost for Gamepad must be $100+, which is the kind of figure I expected Iwata to reject or save for next gen. 3: Sony were lashed for the longest time for selling a console at a loss, it was deemed disastrous and a stupid company move (which, to be honest, it was). 4: The hardware appears to be moving a lot slower than Nintendo themselves have projected, this gives them a huge problem since they have little to no wiggle room with pricing and have a cloudy release slate for most of 2013. I don't know what they expected. Iwata explicitly said the 3DS problem of no early software was fixed for Wii U. I think they assumed 2D Mario would just sell millions regardless, and that Nintendo Land would be Wii Sports. 5: They are competing directly with the current generation of consoles and will also be competing with the next generation, a historically unique position for a console to be in and likely not one to count towards Nintendo's favor. The 360 and PS3 appear to be absolute steals when the three are juxtaposed by consumers. Nintendo deliberately aimed for a crowded market with two established players, but without understanding what that market wanted (on the online side, and that people wouldn't wait two weeks for CoD). Overall, like I've been saying since long before the Wii U launched; Nintendo are not in a very good position now and need to put all their effort into staying relevant globally. They stand a very real chance of becoming an obscurity in Europe, being dominated by a Microsoft console in the Americas and being slapped by handhelds and tablet/phone games in the East. They also betrayed their followers by going directly against their own sentiments from only a couple of years back (will continue software support for the Wii, will live for at least as long as the PS360 etc). Now, this is not a doom prophecy but it should be crystal clear to anyone with half a mind towards observation and business that they need to do something quite soon. Definitely make the Deluxe the only model. Cancel any projects with poor return. Don't allow any more projects 'because the developer wanted it' unless it has a business case. |
| pezus said: A $50/50 Euro E3 price cut or a pre-E3 cut has to happen. If not, all attention will shift towards Sony and MS's next consoles. |
So pezus, do you think Ps4 and nextbox will sell more in 2014? If all the attention shifts from WiiU when they release I dont see how it could sell more that year.
osed125 said:
System seller FOR the Wii U, for the same reason you stayed, most people already have the game for the 360, PS3 or PC. |
Why aren't these games system sellers for the Wii U?
GameAnalyser said:
The metaphors sound good. Well, it's a matter of time to know which ones actually turn out to be the same. |
So... all of this makes the 3DS the one possible savior of the industry, right?

| pezus said: A $50/50 Euro E3 price cut or a pre-E3 cut has to happen. If not, all attention will shift towards Sony and MS's next consoles. |
I think this is what's going to happen: if the sales stay like this for 1-2 months Nintendo is going to announce games that they were planning to reveal at E3 (they can simple do a Nintendo Direct), if this works then the sales will stabilize until a "real" price cut at the end of the year, if the sales keep going down then Nintendo will cut the price by $50 (max $70) before E3.
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