I love these threads sometimes. They always get spicy...

If you were pointing that part out, you really should have quoted THAT post, and not the subsequent one...

The point of that sentence was, not ALL hetero marriages are ideal places to raise kids. The same goes for homosexual marriages, but nobody should say that NO homosexual marriages are ideal places to raise kids, just because the marriage is homosexual.

Some of the responses are disgusting, untrue and vulgar. This is why gay people are so vocal ("no one cared what you do, why so vocal gays?) and this thread proves why gay people still have to be so vocal about wanting EQUAL rights. Not equivalent but equal. I don't give a fuck what people think about me, just line you shouldn't give a fuck what I think about you, but using my sexual orientation (not my world contribution or my self less charity giving) as an excuse for stopping people doing what they wanna us disgusting. And no amount of discussion changes that. I'm a human; I breath, I eat, I sleep. My best friend lets me look after her kids without question. Why? Because I'm a functioning person who knows the difference between right and wrong. I've not an insidious agenda I'm just a person wanting to live. And even if this gets me banned - those who openly help to prevent me from living a full life that the 21st century offers is out of order. And I am very passionate about this because it directly affects me and the rest of my life!!!

Lol, I truly love getting the chance to laugh at the ridiculousness of replies like this. 

If the country allows gays to adopt children then im for it, otherwise not as the benefits of a marriage are supposed to be to encourage a family to start. If you can't have children then you are just taking advantage of the system. Even if a straight couple doesn't intend to have children, theres always the chance that the condom will break.

I also believe that being gay makes you inferior for the sole reason of not having children. I have a logical view so I am simply weighing the pros and cons. Gays are doing it just for the sex or because they like men etc... Maybe they even have an unhealthy disliking of women in general in which case I would question weather or not they have a bias against the sex in general. That in and of itself could have a negative impact on society.

Who can marry who is decided upon by the church, if they deem its against their faith then why would you stay with that religion. Find one that suits your beliefs or start your own religion. Instead of going after the church, try going after your governments to enforce equal policies between civil partnerships and marriage. I've never seen a compelling argument for gay marriage so that might explain why I feel this way.

For the record, I've no interest in religion and I have a few gay friends and family so I'm not homophobic. I just despise "human rights" and "inequality" being used in the victim defense to try and explain why everyone else's views are wrong. Maybe one day I'll see a reason for change, until then I'm a no.

P.s. its ridiculous saying you can't discuss religion when its at the centre of the issue.

Having two parents is better than having no parents.

I'm a pretty straight up (in the metaphorical sense) guy. As someone who opposed gay people in general (it was just the way I was raised) until I found out I was one (unfortunately), I can honestly say I don't give one f*ck about marriage as a label. If the consensus is that marriage was an institution for heterosexual couples then fine. The problem comes about when civil unions do not have parity in terms of rights with "married' couples. That is why I give a damn. I do think that a good few of gay men and women have become caught up in the label though, even if the rights are still their major aim....

You just have to look at it from the childrens point of view, these four paragraphs alone from that article pretty much sum up my point.

Quite simply, growing up with gay parents was very difficult, and not because of prejudice from neighbors. People in our community didn’t really know what was going on in the house. To most outside observers, I was a well-raised, high-achieving child, finishing high school with straight A's.

Inside, however, I was confused. When your home life is so drastically different from everyone around you, in a fundamental way striking at basic physical relations, you grow up weird. I have no mental health disorders or biological conditions. I just grew up in a house so unusual that I was destined to exist as a social outcast.

He then goes on to say:

Regnerus’s study identified 248 adult children of parents who had same-sex romantic relationships. Offered a chance to provide frank responses with the hindsight of adulthood, they gave reports unfavorable to the gay marriage equality agenda. Yet the results are backed up by an important thing in life called common sense: Growing up different from other people is difficult and the difficulties raise the risk that children will develop maladjustments or self-medicate with alcohol and other dangerous behaviors. Each of those 248 is a human story, no doubt with many complexities.

Like my story, these 248 people’s stories deserve to be told. The gay movement is doing everything it can to make sure that nobody hears them. But I care more about the stories than the numbers (especially as an English professor), and Regnerus stumbled unwittingly on a narrative treasure chest.

This line of thought is just as fallacious as saying that women are raped for dressing promiscuously. Instead of saying "oh, we shouldn't have gay adoption because of bullying," we should say "stop bullying."