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fordy said:
think-man said:
fordy said:
think-man said:
fordy said:
think-man said:
Im not against gay marriage, but I am against gays/lesbians having kids together. It's just not fare on the kids who will have to grow up in a house that is different from 95% of the population.


So you'd prefer them to stay in orphanages where they feel like nobody loves them? What about to hetero couples that always fight, or are physically abusive? Would that be a better place to raise kids?

Im more talking about when they give sperm and have another women bare there child, or lesbians getting a sperm donor to make themselves pregnant.

Nowadays ( Well at least in my country) the familys go through extensive investigation to make sure they are fit to adopt a child, as well as support workers dropping by every couple of weeks to make sure everythings fine.


If they're going to a loving household, why should it make a difference?

Because they will be brought up in a house thinking its normal for men to be together, kids at school will  laugh and bully them if they found out.

Just read this: http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2012/08/6065/

Thats an inside view of a child growing up with gay parents.


Are you saying the ends justifies the means? That gay couples cannot have children around because gay couples are looked down upon on society?

I'd say that's society's problem, not the problem of gay couples OR their kids. Society painted this image of them.

You don't think kids who were half white and half black received similar treatments back in an era of segregation? Society will adapt over time.

You just have to look at it from the childrens point of view, these four paragraphs alone from that article pretty much sum up my point.

Quite simply, growing up with gay parents was very difficult, and not because of prejudice from neighbors. People in our community didn’t really know what was going on in the house. To most outside observers, I was a well-raised, high-achieving child, finishing high school with straight A's.

Inside, however, I was confused. When your home life is so drastically different from everyone around you, in a fundamental way striking at basic physical relations, you grow up weird. I have no mental health disorders or biological conditions. I just grew up in a house so unusual that I was destined to exist as a social outcast.

He then goes on to say:

Regnerus’s study identified 248 adult children of parents who had same-sex romantic relationships. Offered a chance to provide frank responses with the hindsight of adulthood, they gave reports unfavorable to the gay marriage equality agenda. Yet the results are backed up by an important thing in life called common sense: Growing up different from other people is difficult and the difficulties raise the risk that children will develop maladjustments or self-medicate with alcohol and other dangerous behaviors. Each of those 248 is a human story, no doubt with many complexities.

Like my story, these 248 people’s stories deserve to be told. The gay movement is doing everything it can to make sure that nobody hears them. But I care more about the stories than the numbers (especially as an English professor), and Regnerus stumbled unwittingly on a narrative treasure chest.