Microsoft raises an army

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Soleron on 07 January 2013

Xbox hardly does anything financially. More of a prestige product.

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Somini on 07 January 2013

Please wait a moment while i google what microsoft has been doing lately :D

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endimion on 08 January 2013

hmmm I'm pretty sure we won't see MS not being number one OS in our life time.... apple if it stays alone can't replace every single PC OEM.... and android is way of base when it comes to unity to be viable right now for business on a large scale..... it's too much linuxy (for good or bad)....

now search is not doing great but it is going up and therefor it is gaining marketshare on google search which is always good for them... I think bing is at 25% marketshare on site hosted search solution... and double it's search engine single use this year... well anyway still behind.... but I have seen apple fans having an orgasm over way less progress......

now I don't belive in the long lasting life of products such as tablet like iPad and other ARM tablets.... ultrabook PCs and Tablet PCs will crawl down the price lader to tank them hard sooner or later.... and people are completely forgetting an other war.... intel is not gonna let ARM a free pass to the tablet market.... they already have CPUs benchmarking better power consumption to performance ratio than ARM tegra 3 CPUs and they are x86 CPUs meaning you will be able to run a full windows or OS X on it.....

unless MS management does a vista remake X10 they are going nowhere and actually will have great things to show us in the future....

just when you see the budgets they invest in R&D and different think tank and companies it is more than apple and google combine budgets for the same purpose... so be sure that MS as way more cards to play on the very long run than anybody in the tech world and every single tech partner they have know that.... that's their trus strength.... Sami, intel, texas instrument, 100 of consulting fimrs, 100s of software dev firms, 100 of security/It firms know that.... MS has a grasp on way more than phones, PCs, and tablets.... they are in your missiles, they are in your cars, they are or will in many other market than just computer OSs....

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justinian on 08 January 2013

DirtyP2002 said:

justinian said:

DirtyP2002 said:

Soleron said:
I think Microsoft stands to fall quite a lot, because they are no longer the only option for PC OEMs and trying to compete with them with Surface deters them from further supporting you.

MS can only be hurt via Windows and Office. If tablets become serious laptop replacements they stand to lose a lot there.

I read this quite a few times and it is not correct.

databases and Servers are highly profitable as well. The "Server and Tools" division posted a 7.5 billion USD profit for the last financial year. Expect MS to report about a close to 8 billion USD profit January, 24th.

I think he makes good sense. I am not saying what you wrote is wrong but the figures speak for themselves.

In 2010 the IDC reported that MS had a 73% server market share. Windows server share is now about 50% and flat with about a 1% growth rate (April 2012).

http://www.osnews.com/story/23412/Windows_Increases_Lead_in_Server_Unit_Sales

http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=20146

Linux is growing mega fast and with the backing of some of the biggest companies on the planet. When the world's biggest search engine and online store use linux as their prime servers that is testament to it's reliablity and progress.

Now mysql is in the hands of Oracle that will put more pressure on MS SQL Server.

Companies are waking up to the fact that linux is a serious contender. Everything points to the developing world adopting Linux servers over Windows and that is where a hell of a lot of money is going to be made looking forward.

But yes, MS makes good profit from it's server and database.

I have been hearing that since 1998. Just some anecdotal evidence: I work for a recruitment company and most of the jobs in the IT infrastructure business require knowledge with MS SQL Server. Linux is not on its way up in that department, especially when you consider the push to the cloud.

This one explains the Linux growth better:
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Networking/Windows-Server-Sales-Flat-in-Q1-Compared-to-Linux-Models-IDC-705101/

I never said they rule the entire market, but 50.2 % is not that bad. And revenue for the division grew 8% YoY, profit grew 11.7%

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/PressReleaseAndWebcast/FY13/Q1/default.aspx

I just wanted to say that MS has more to offer than WIndows, Office and Xbox. The profit of Server and Tools division alone is about 60% of the whole profit Google generated last financial year.

I never said 50.2% was bad, but it doesn't change the fact that from maybe 90% market share it is a masive drop.

I also clearly stated that MS makes a lot of money from it's server line. That was never an argument.

All I was saying ( and the facts speak for themselves regardless what you have been hearing since 1998 ) is that linux is now major and taking chunks out of Windows server market share.

Yes, MS SQL Server is big but expect with the billion$ Oracle have behind it, in time mysql will make in serious inroads.

I am not speaking as an MS hater, I am speaking as someone who would love a degree of parity instead of a monpoly when it comes to OSes, whether it be desktop or server, instead of the sheep mentality that seemed to be the case for so long.