DirtyP2002 said:
justinian said:
DirtyP2002 said:
Soleron said:
I think Microsoft stands to fall quite a lot, because they are no longer the only option for PC OEMs and trying to compete with them with Surface deters them from further supporting you.
MS can only be hurt via Windows and Office. If tablets become serious laptop replacements they stand to lose a lot there. |
I read this quite a few times and it is not correct.
databases and Servers are highly profitable as well. The "Server and Tools" division posted a 7.5 billion USD profit for the last financial year. Expect MS to report about a close to 8 billion USD profit January, 24th.
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I think he makes good sense. I am not saying what you wrote is wrong but the figures speak for themselves.
In 2010 the IDC reported that MS had a 73% server market share. Windows server share is now about 50% and flat with about a 1% growth rate (April 2012).
http://www.osnews.com/story/23412/Windows_Increases_Lead_in_Server_Unit_Sales
http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=20146
Linux is growing mega fast and with the backing of some of the biggest companies on the planet. When the world's biggest search engine and online store use linux as their prime servers that is testament to it's reliablity and progress.
Now mysql is in the hands of Oracle that will put more pressure on MS SQL Server.
Companies are waking up to the fact that linux is a serious contender. Everything points to the developing world adopting Linux servers over Windows and that is where a hell of a lot of money is going to be made looking forward.
But yes, MS makes good profit from it's server and database.
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I have been hearing that since 1998. Just some anecdotal evidence: I work for a recruitment company and most of the jobs in the IT infrastructure business require knowledge with MS SQL Server. Linux is not on its way up in that department, especially when you consider the push to the cloud.
This one explains the Linux growth better:
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Networking/Windows-Server-Sales-Flat-in-Q1-Compared-to-Linux-Models-IDC-705101/
I never said they rule the entire market, but 50.2 % is not that bad. And revenue for the division grew 8% YoY, profit grew 11.7%
http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/PressReleaseAndWebcast/FY13/Q1/default.aspx
I just wanted to say that MS has more to offer than WIndows, Office and Xbox. The profit of Server and Tools division alone is about 60% of the whole profit Google generated last financial year.
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I never said 50.2% was bad, but it doesn't change the fact that from maybe 90% market share it is a masive drop.
I also clearly stated that MS makes a lot of money from it's server line. That was never an argument.
All I was saying ( and the facts speak for themselves regardless what you have been hearing since 1998 ) is that linux is now major and taking chunks out of Windows server market share.
Yes, MS SQL Server is big but expect with the billion$ Oracle have behind it, in time mysql will make in serious inroads.
I am not speaking as an MS hater, I am speaking as someone who would love a degree of parity instead of a monpoly when it comes to OSes, whether it be desktop or server, instead of the sheep mentality that seemed to be the case for so long.
