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How will consoles sell during Christmas 2013?

PS360 will dominate 96 18.50%
 
Wii U and Nintendo own that time of year 229 44.12%
 
PS4 will be king, if not,... 66 12.72%
 
Nexbox will be king, if n... 49 9.44%
 
Not sure, but Wii U is doomed. 79 15.22%
 
Total:519
DaRev on 08 January 2013
VGKing said:
DaRev said:
dharh said:

Eh. I dunno if the Wii U will be a success or failure. Frankly I can't begin to care. It has nothing to offer me, thus failure or success has little impact on me other than the possibility of limiting resources to mediums I do care about. I say mediums rather than games or consoles because at this point it is not only the genre (RPG mostly) that I care about but also the input method of said genre. I refute wholeheartedly the complete bullshit that is motion control and any said RPG that uses such is plebeian crap such that I can but barely even acknowledged its existence. So, my position is that if others like it fine, I just hope that these games that I like are created on consoles that I can at least use _traditional_ controls.


That is all.

You can use traditional controls on the Wii U. Plus it is very likely that it dominate Japan and get many decent JRPGs. So what do you say now, still don't care, because of an obvious bias?

For an additional price. 

Nope, I mean the Gamepad is a traditional control, just with a touch screen. Meaning how you interract with a game is the same. You do not have to use the touch screen of the gamepad since the gamepad could just be used as a way to dispaly a map, and does not affect how you input commands in the game, unlike, for example how you inputted commands for ZeldaSS. NSMBU for example plays traditionally with (little to) no touchscreen interraction during singleplayer gameplay. So the genius about the gamepad is that it can be both a traditional and a unconventional controller at the same time, it just depends on the game and how the controller is used traditionally or unconventionally.



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I love My Wii U, and the potential it brings to gaming.

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DaRev on 08 January 2013
dharh said:
DaRev said:
dharh said:

Eh. I dunno if the Wii U will be a success or failure. Frankly I can't begin to care. It has nothing to offer me, thus failure or success has little impact on me other than the possibility of limiting resources to mediums I do care about. I say mediums rather than games or consoles because at this point it is not only the genre (RPG mostly) that I care about but also the input method of said genre. I refute wholeheartedly the complete bullshit that is motion control and any said RPG that uses such is plebeian crap such that I can but barely even acknowledged its existence. So, my position is that if others like it fine, I just hope that these games that I like are created on consoles that I can at least use _traditional_ controls.


That is all.

You can use traditional controls on the Wii U. Plus it is very likely that it dominate Japan and get many decent JRPGs. So what do you say now, still don't care, because of an obvious bias?

When it does begin to get decent RPGs that utilize traditional controls then I will consider it. Otherwise no. Frankly I don't see _why_ a developer would put a traditional control input RPG on the WiiU since the concecpt of the WiiU itself flies in the face of traditional controls.

The Wii U doesn't DEMAND that you use the touch screen. Developers are hopefully not as short-sighted as some games, so they will see the Wii U as just another platform to make great games and not as some incomprehensible alien tech. 



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I love My Wii U, and the potential it brings to gaming.

Jumpin on 08 January 2013

I can't help but to see the "Nintendo is d0omt!" crowd as being anything more than a bunch of chuckleheads who are either the product of incest, or received some sort of brain damage as children. Either way, you know there is something subhuman about them. It also seems that the anti-Nintendo people are the same ones who are racist conservatives.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Mazty on 02 February 2013
superchunk said:
Mazty said:

Really? Links please, would like to see those figures.

Here's some quick google images I found..

Keep in mind, for Sony that is just their "income". Not their overall net loss/profit... so clearly this gen Nintendo >>> Sony. I'll try to find an older Nintendo one too...

That one is decent and proves Nintendo made more money for PS2/GC era...


Now factor in the stock price fall and the revised Wii U sales.

There are many variables in this picture to be looked at.



d21lewis on 02 February 2013

No place else to post this at the moment but: I had company at my house this weekend. We played a lot of Wii U. Mario Bros. U and NintendoLand dominated our time. These were Nintendo's two biggest sellers and, despite my owning several Wii U titles already, these are all anybody actually saw.

It dawned on me. These two titles look like shit. Fun as hell? Most definitely! Still, the looked like they could have been done for the Gamecube launch. I think this is a problem. Yes, playing is believing but the games need to "wow" people as they pass tne demo in Best Buy or Gamestop. Wii U needs a graphical powerhouse asap.



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VGKing on 02 February 2013
DaRev said:
VGKing said:
DaRev said:
dharh said:

Eh. I dunno if the Wii U will be a success or failure. Frankly I can't begin to care. It has nothing to offer me, thus failure or success has little impact on me other than the possibility of limiting resources to mediums I do care about. I say mediums rather than games or consoles because at this point it is not only the genre (RPG mostly) that I care about but also the input method of said genre. I refute wholeheartedly the complete bullshit that is motion control and any said RPG that uses such is plebeian crap such that I can but barely even acknowledged its existence. So, my position is that if others like it fine, I just hope that these games that I like are created on consoles that I can at least use _traditional_ controls.


That is all.

You can use traditional controls on the Wii U. Plus it is very likely that it dominate Japan and get many decent JRPGs. So what do you say now, still don't care, because of an obvious bias?

For an additional price. 

Nope, I mean the Gamepad is a traditional control, just with a touch screen. Meaning how you interract with a game is the same. You do not have to use the touch screen of the gamepad since the gamepad could just be used as a way to dispaly a map, and does not affect how you input commands in the game, unlike, for example how you inputted commands for ZeldaSS. NSMBU for example plays traditionally with (little to) no touchscreen interraction during singleplayer gameplay. So the genius about the gamepad is that it can be both a traditional and a unconventional controller at the same time, it just depends on the game and how the controller is used traditionally or unconventionally.

It's not a tradional controller. That gamepad is HUGE and the touchscreen is intrusive and it affects the button layouts/positions and how/where you position the controller while playing. IT IS TOO BIG.

Traditional controllers are judged by more than just how many buttons they have. Design and form factor are a huge part of why they are called "traditional".



Vinniegambini on 02 February 2013
d21lewis said:
No place else to post this at the moment but: I had company at my house this weekend. We played a lot of Wii U. Mario Bros. U and NintendoLand dominated our time. These were Nintendo's two biggest sellers and, despite my owning several Wii U titles already, these are all anybody actually saw.

It dawned on me. These two titles look like shit. Fun as hell? Most definitely! Still, the looked like they could have been done for the Gamecube launch. I think this is a problem. Yes, playing is believing but the games need to "wow" people as they pass tne demo in Best Buy or Gamestop. Wii U needs a graphical powerhouse asap.

Damn colorful shit if you ask me :)



miz1q2w3e on 02 February 2013
Chark said:

loling at epic gif



relapse on 12 February 2013
JTurner82 said:
Kenology said:
Sensei said:
It is doomed. it might get lucky and sell well enough to make Nintendo some money (as usual).

However, it is doomed to not get the good multiplats. It's not getting even most PS360 ports, it wont get PS4/Xbox3 games.

Nintendo consoles might survive well, but Sony and MS get the best games.

It's always funny to me how fans perceive there to be some Sony/MS buttbuddyhood alliance when battling the evil Nintendo!

If I was Nintendo, I'd be okay with not having the "best" games (opinion), so long as I have the best sales minus (fact) that one horrendous financial statement. 

Also, how on Earth do you know, Sensei that WiiU WON'T be getting future PS3 OR PS4/720 multiplats?  Do you have a crystal ball or something?  This is getting REALLY, REALLY tiresome.  Third parties will do much better on WiiU than Wii; their games will be better, if not up to Sony-MS quantity, at least better than Wii.  Especially in Japan.

It's the same reason why the Wii no longer gets watered down versions of games once the PS2 market died.

One constant with Nintendo consoles is that 3rd party titles just dont sell anywhere near as well as their Sony/MS counterparts.  While there is still a PS3 and 360 market we'll see Wii U ports, but once that market is no longer supported by 3rd parties the companies will no longer invest money into coding a watered down Wii U specific version of a PS4/720 game for exactly the same reasons why they didnt do it on the Wii because they simply just dont sell.



sales2099 on 12 February 2013

Damn, u guys are really taking the piss out of WiiU, which is technically #1 in the 8th gen :P.

Wait till its overtaken before the doom threads



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.