By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Nintendo - The Wii U is Nintendo's last console (gaming "journalism" at its worst)

S.Peelman said:

What the hell is this? Biggest bull**** I ever saw:

"... and made of glossy Nintendo plastic."
Thank god it's made of 'Nintendo-plastic'. That stuff's indestructible.

"But Nintendo’s interface is blatantly Japanese, and it lacks any and all sophistication."
Yes, damn them for being proud of their home country. Damn them for making such easy to use interfaces!

"Our black Wii U was coated in dust merely seconds after unboxing it."
I guess they should vacuum a little more often...

ramses01 said:
(..)

As a toy maker Nintendo has done well. As video game console and game maker, not so much. The next good system and/or game that they make will be the first.

Besides the fact that them advertising the NES as a toy saved the gaming industry and you directly owe your continued gaming carreer to this fact, every console is a toy. Also @ bold:

Mmmm. And here I was thinking all their consoles have been praised to high heaven, their games are continuesly heralded as some of the best ever made, these games completely dominate the Top 20 highest selling games ever made and they as a company made more money off of it than all the others combined. Guess I was wrong then, dumb me!

LOL, misguided much.  Nintendo pretty much killed console gaming until the launch of PS2.  The introduction of the joypad alone is enough to damn them forever.  Yes they sold lots of toys, but they have yet to make any games so how could they sell any?  

Fortunately, PC gaming was in its heyday back then.

User was banned for this post - Kantor



Around the Network

As long as Iwata and Miyamoto are in charge, Nintendo will never put their games on other platforms. They believe it will completely destroy their competitiveness and make their brands less desirable. I happen to agree with that philosophy.

We're a very long ways from the management at NCL even vaguely entertaining the idea of bringing their games to other platforms, let alone beginning to develop for other platforms. Years away.

Direct quote from Iwata last summer on Nintendo releasing their games on non-Nintendo devices: "So long as I am President, that shall never happen". It ain't happening, folks.

Look at Animal Crossing and 3DS sales in Japan and tell me Nintendo can't make it with their long-standing business model.  They can, for sure.



 

Soundwave said:
If Wii U doesn't do well in 2013 and beyond, I could see it being the last "traditional" Nintendo console.

They may move on to a hybrid portable/tablet type of product next as others have mentioned.


That's more of a natural evolution of where the direction of future consoles might go, not necessarily the end of consoles themselves.  Technologies always evolve.



 

sperrico87 said:
As long as Iwata and Miyamoto are in charge, Nintendo will never put their games on other platforms. They believe it will completely destroy their competitiveness and make their brands less desirable. I happen to agree with that philosophy.

We're a very long ways from the management at NCL even vaguely entertaining the idea of bringing their games to other platforms, let alone beginning to develop for other platforms. Years away.

Direct quote from Iwata last summer on Nintendo releasing their games on non-Nintendo devices: "So long as I am President, that shall never happen". It ain't happening, folks.


I agree with that philosophy as well. They should only put mario on ios/android as the very very last resort. I mean one of the main reasons people buy nintendo consoles anyways is for nintendo games.



Is it just me or is it mildly racist to imply that you can tell what country a product was made in simply by how complex it feels? It sort of implies that the Japanese are either too stupid or too lazy to make a good "sophisticated" product.



Babble babble bitch bitch rebel rebel party party sex sex sex and don't forget the violence. Blah blah blah got your lovey-dovey sad and lonely stick your stupid slogan in. Everybody sing along. 

Around the Network
comawhite94 said:
Is it just me or is it mildly racist to imply that you can tell what country a product was made in simply by how complex it feels? It sort of implies that the Japanese are either too stupid or too lazy to make a good "sophisticated" product.


It's presumptuous, perhaps.  By no means is it racist.  Japanese are known for sophisticated consumer electronics.  After all it's where most of the world's top electronics companies are located.



 

Lyrikalstylez said:
While it would be kinda said if Nintendo left the console business,
their games will surely be played on my next box or ps4!


It's as likely to happen as Sony or Microsoft putting their games on Nintendo's consoles.



 

sperrico87 said:

As long as Iwata and Miyamoto are in charge, Nintendo will never put their games on other platforms. They believe it will completely destroy their competitiveness and make their brands less desirable. I happen to agree with that philosophy.

We're a very long ways from the management at NCL even vaguely entertaining the idea of bringing their games to other platforms, let alone beginning to develop for other platforms. Years away.

Direct quote from Iwata last summer on Nintendo releasing their games on non-Nintendo devices: "So long as I am President, that shall never happen". It ain't happening, folks.

Look at Animal Crossing and 3DS sales in Japan and tell me Nintendo can't make it with their long-standing business model.  They can, for sure.


If Wii U is a sales dissapointment and cell phones continue to erode the relevance of game handhelds, I don't think it's so far fetched that Iwata will be given the boot at some point. 

Under his guidance, Nintendo has largely squandered most of the momenteum they had from the Wii/DS heyday with two very problematic hardware transitions and he seems to be apologizing for something different every 3 months nowadays. 

Miyamoto is moving back into an advisor position. I honestly wouldn't mind Nintendo get a president that was more aware and in tune with the Western markets. Under Iwata, Nintendo has become very Japan-centric in their software philosophies, contrasted to Nintendo in the late 1990s. 



Soundwave said:
sperrico87 said:

As long as Iwata and Miyamoto are in charge, Nintendo will never put their games on other platforms. They believe it will completely destroy their competitiveness and make their brands less desirable. I happen to agree with that philosophy.

We're a very long ways from the management at NCL even vaguely entertaining the idea of bringing their games to other platforms, let alone beginning to develop for other platforms. Years away.

Direct quote from Iwata last summer on Nintendo releasing their games on non-Nintendo devices: "So long as I am President, that shall never happen". It ain't happening, folks.

Look at Animal Crossing and 3DS sales in Japan and tell me Nintendo can't make it with their long-standing business model.  They can, for sure.


If Wii U is a sales dissapointment and cell phones continue to erode the relevance of game handhelds, I don't think it's so far fetched that Iwata will be given the boot at some point. 

Under his guidance, Nintendo has largely squandered most of the momenteum they had from the Wii/DS heyday with two very problematic hardware transitions and he seems to be apologizing for something different every 3 months nowadays. 

Miyamoto is moving back into an advisor position. I honestly wouldn't mind Nintendo get a president that was more aware and in tune with the Western markets. Under Iwata, Nintendo has become very Japan-centric in their software philosophies, contrasted to Nintendo in the late 1990s. 


3DS/ Wii U is Iwata's third hardware transition at Nintendo, so while it's true the 3DS/ Wii U generation has been rocky, you also have to give him at least as much credit for the immense successes that were Wii/ DS, which were also under his leadership.  GameCube was even rockier, but GBA did just fine.  

I think some of their software teams, such as the Metroid, Zelda, Mario teams mostly make games that will sell like gangbusters in North America as Christmas gifts.  Probably the rest of the quirky Japanese-centric software either is made without even consideration for western audiences, or made as something that isn't even considered for localization because it's so niche to Japan.  I think the balance they have for software is probably 50/50 in the end.

The rocky 3DS launch was a result of a huge mistake in pricing, not necessarily a lack of demand for new hardware.  DS was six-and-a-half years old when 3DS launched.  You also have to consider that cell phone gaming in Japan has been around longer than it has elsewhere in the world, yet Japan has the largest appetite for handhelds to this day, so I don't think there is very much overlap between gaming hobbyists and cell phone users.  I think people just use both and don't consider phones a replacement for a true gaming device.



 

People in Japan use their handhelds as their primary gaming console period, that's why the handheld hasn't slowed down in Japan (well it has actually, 3DS is behind the DS' pace there as well but all told 3DS is quite healthy there so we'll give it a pass on that).

This is not the case in the West, and I don't think it ever will be the case.