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ethomaz on 02 January 2013

walsufnir said:

Still 96 million to go, but if Sony keeps the 10-year-plan it could manage to do so.

That's a good question because I'm counting just million sellers but we know the PS3 software sales (and Nintendo too) but Microsoft neve released this number for us.



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walsufnir on 02 January 2013
ethomaz said:

walsufnir said:

Still 96 million to go, but if Sony keeps the 10-year-plan it could manage to do so.

That's a good question because I'm counting just million sellers but we know the PS3 software sales (and Nintendo too) but Microsoft neve released this number for us.


Ok, but if MS never releases numbers, the numbers are unsure? So we don't know if there are more or less million-sellers?



TheLastStarFighter on 02 January 2013
TeddostheFireKing 37 minutes ago
kitler53 said:
TheLastStarFighter said:

To the degree you are saying, yes. You are saying that less than 1% of Wii buyers are interested in WiiU. 1%! Do you realise how rediculous that is? I'm blown away buy it. If you want to bash WiiU interest level, say it's about 50% of what Wii was. Go extreme even, say Nintendo would be lucky to get 10% of the interest level. But 1%? That's so over-the-top I can't take you seriously. And there are games Euros want, NSMBWii sold 700,000 copies this year alone. Millions of Euros will buy a WiiU and they will buy NSMBU. What happens after that, I don't know but there is without a shadow of a doubt more than 340k people that will do that. You may not hang out with them, but they are definitely alive and willing to buy a WiiU when they can get one.


you put far too much faith in your "1%" calc. check out the first 6 weeks of ps3 sales in europe and you'll see an even smaller percentage. wrong price, wrong games, no interest. past success does not ensure future success.

Thank you Kitler, I really don't know how much simpler to make that argument.

Perhaps another argument Starfighter, there are many Nintendo fans on this site, correct? Yet you seem to be the only one even attempting to argue its supply constrained in Europe, doesn't that strike you as even slightly odd?

 

@Ted. Some points. I'm not really a fan of Nintendo. I'm just a fan of video games and enjoy talking about them and business in general. I actually have seen Nintendo fans saying it's supply constrained. The only people saying it's not are, in general Sony fans. It truth it doesn't really matter to me what fans of either side say because fans by nature have a clouded opinion on things. Further, everyone on the entire site could disagree with me and it wouldn't change my opinion unless they were making valid business arguments. My professional background and every piece of public information we have about the WiiU's shipment schedule says they are selling everything they planned to make at this stage. Data is way more reliable than opinion, and you or anyone else haven't provided data to suggest that WiiU isn't selling any different than Nintendo's projections.

 



walsufnir on 02 January 2013
pezus said:
walsufnir said:
ethomaz said:

walsufnir said:

Still 96 million to go, but if Sony keeps the 10-year-plan it could manage to do so.

That's a good question because I'm counting just million sellers but we know the PS3 software sales (and Nintendo too) but Microsoft neve released this number for us.


Ok, but if MS never releases numbers, the numbers are unsure? So we don't know if there are more or less million-sellers?

Indeed. One might ask how they get away with never releasing software shipments. 

 

But with that any talking of overtaking ms is useless when there is data unknown? So when ethomaz says sony overtakes in million-sellers ms-data can be taken but total software-sales numbers are invalid? Hm.



ethomaz on 02 January 2013

walsufnir said:

But with that any talking of overtaking ms is useless when there is data unknown? So when ethomaz says sony overtakes in million-sellers ms-data can be taken but total software-sales numbers are invalid? Hm.

I didn't say it's invalid... I said that's a good question... I can't confirm anything.



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sales2099 on 02 January 2013
ethomaz said:

walsufnir said:

Still 96 million to go, but if Sony keeps the 10-year-plan it could manage to do so.

That's a good question because I'm counting just million sellers but we know the PS3 software sales (and Nintendo too) but Microsoft neve released this number for us.

Well among the million sellers 360s still sell more, especially if you compare the top 20.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

walsufnir on 02 January 2013
ethomaz said:

walsufnir said:

But with that any talking of overtaking ms is useless when there is data unknown? So when ethomaz says sony overtakes in million-sellers ms-data can be taken but total software-sales numbers are invalid? Hm.

I didn't say it's invalid... I said that's a good question... I can't confirm anything.


This was not especially meant to your post but to several others like your post. No offense! :)



ethomaz on 02 January 2013

walsufnir said:

This was not especially meant to your post but to several others like your post. No offense! :)

That's fine... without data I can say neither of they are corret (million sellers of software total)... so I think your question is really reasonable.

Now I'm curious to know how much software Microsoft shipped... the Europe Nintendo chartz not show that huge software sales for 360 but the US can make all the difference for it.



WebMasterFlex on 02 January 2013

PS3 wasn't outsold the Xmas by much... 2013 probably be the year to be at the second place.



walsufnir on 02 January 2013
ethomaz said:

walsufnir said:

This was not especially meant to your post but to several others like your post. No offense! :)

That's fine... without data I can say neither of they are corret (million sellers of software total)... so I think your question is really reasonable.

Now I'm curious to know how much software Microsoft shipped... the Europe Nintendo chartz not show that huge software sales for 360 but the US can make all the difference for it.

Do you know how or if digital sales are counted? I know that some games are talked about (minecraft especially) but what with the other games? Sony? MS?