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J_Allard on 30 December 2012
Turkish said:
J_Allard said:
Turkish said:
J_Allard said:
It is on topic. Again, try following conversations instead of making stupid comments or whining about crapping up a thread that was already a pile of feces in the original post :)


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'll let the mods decide what to do with you.

still not sure why you were upset about a conversation I was having about sales with someone else, in a thread about sales. Either way, thanks for letting the mods decide and not banning me yourself.


I don't need to follow a whole conversation when I have highlighted the ridicilous statement in your last post. You didnot answer my question, instead you tried to be a rude smartass. Nothing more.

Now carry on, on topic this time.

If you follow the conversation then the part you quoted isn't ridiculous. I really don't know how I can make it any simpler for you. Maybe you didn't like the conversation the other guy and myself were having but oh well, thems the breaks I guess. Maybe get over it?



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J_Allard on 30 December 2012
platformmaster918 said:
J_Allard said:
Anecdotal evidence is irrelevant. I don't know any PS3 owners off of the Internet that play any Sony franchises. It's all Madden, Call of Duty, and Battlefield. See how that works? And guess what? Software sales show we're both right. 2 MS games in the 360's top 10 (again, not counting Kinect Adventures) and 2 Sony games in the PS3 top 10. Maybe people play CoD and other multiplatform games on 360 because they are better there? Anyone who has played CoD knows this to be the case.

If the 360 has a huge inflated user base because of RROD then what does that say about PS3 gamers in regards to software sales? Not a hot look.


Well ps3 has more exclusives so the sales are spread out rather than concentrated on 2 or 3 franchises for a whole gen

Again, in each console's top 10 you have only 2 games from MS and Sony. The rest are 3rd party and virtually the exact same breakdown of franchises/genre.

I am not sure what exclusives have to do with the sales of 3rd party games anyway. You said that gamers play such and such franchises on 360 only because it launched earlier and PS3 was too expensive, I am simply saying that in the case of a lot of franchises (especially the one you listed, CoD) people play it on 360 simply because it plays better there.



thismeintiel on 30 December 2012
J_Allard said:
platformmaster918 said:
J_Allard said:
Anecdotal evidence is irrelevant. I don't know any PS3 owners off of the Internet that play any Sony franchises. It's all Madden, Call of Duty, and Battlefield. See how that works? And guess what? Software sales show we're both right. 2 MS games in the 360's top 10 (again, not counting Kinect Adventures) and 2 Sony games in the PS3 top 10. Maybe people play CoD and other multiplatform games on 360 because they are better there? Anyone who has played CoD knows this to be the case.

If the 360 has a huge inflated user base because of RROD then what does that say about PS3 gamers in regards to software sales? Not a hot look.


Well ps3 has more exclusives so the sales are spread out rather than concentrated on 2 or 3 franchises for a whole gen

Again, in each console's top 10 you have only 2 games from MS and Sony. The rest are 3rd party and virtually the exact same breakdown of franchises/genre.

I am not sure what exclusives have to do with the sales of 3rd party games anyway. You said that gamers play such and such franchises on 360 only because it launched earlier and PS3 was too expensive, I am simply saying that in the case of a lot of franchises (especially the one you listed, CoD) people play it on 360 simply because it plays better there.

Technically, we don't know how well a lot of SW sells on the 360, since MS doesn't give SW numbers in their fiscal reports.  All we get are some of the numbers for top tier games, if a comany so chooses to release them.  For all we know, PS3 may have very well have passed it in SW totals.



 

SOLIDSNAKE08 on 31 December 2012
J_Allard said:
platformmaster918 said:
J_Allard said:
Anecdotal evidence is irrelevant. I don't know any PS3 owners off of the Internet that play any Sony franchises. It's all Madden, Call of Duty, and Battlefield. See how that works? And guess what? Software sales show we're both right. 2 MS games in the 360's top 10 (again, not counting Kinect Adventures) and 2 Sony games in the PS3 top 10. Maybe people play CoD and other multiplatform games on 360 because they are better there? Anyone who has played CoD knows this to be the case.

If the 360 has a huge inflated user base because of RROD then what does that say about PS3 gamers in regards to software sales? Not a hot look.


Well ps3 has more exclusives so the sales are spread out rather than concentrated on 2 or 3 franchises for a whole gen

Again, in each console's top 10 you have only 2 games from MS and Sony. The rest are 3rd party and virtually the exact same breakdown of franchises/genre.

I am not sure what exclusives have to do with the sales of 3rd party games anyway. You said that gamers play such and such franchises on 360 only because it launched earlier and PS3 was too expensive, I am simply saying that in the case of a lot of franchises (especially the one you listed, CoD) people play it on 360 simply because it plays better there.

more people play them on 360 in the US, not because they're better but because 360 has a huge lead over ps3 there. take a look at software charts for every region outside of america, ps3 dominates software. in some european regions, there isnt even a single xbox 360 game in the top 50! its all sony and nintendo.



J_Allard on 31 December 2012

That's great but it's not a matter of who plays it more on one console versus the other. Or one userbase versus the other. Or one region versus another.



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JimmyDanger on 31 December 2012
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My whole point is MSFT was not spotted those sells, they earned them.

 

 

PS4 is just as likely to launch in 2013 as nextbox.  Also I've admited multiple times I'm playing what if but all these people saying MS "earned" those sales or bought xbox because they thought it was legitimately a better console are talking out of their ass.  Most of the 360 gamers I know own one exclusive (Halo or Gears), but usually they play COD and other multiplats.  Why are they playing those on 360?  Because it came out a year earlier and its main competition was %50 more expensive (not a small amount that could be overlooked for brand loyalty).  Of course if people would look at the free online thing and think into the future they would see that even that astronomical difference would be made up for, but people tend to look at the initial price on a shelf over thinking years down the road.  Let's also not forget the artificially inflated install base of 360 due to RROD.

You're saying everyone who bought a 360 did so only because they were ill informed, didn't care, or were otherwise mislead?

You - good sir - with all due respect - are talking out of your arse.

It's this kind of arrogance/reality disconnect - that is symbolic of where Sony find themselves at the moment. If only everyone was as educated, cultured and refined enough - they'd all buy Sony.

The possibility that anyone could find a competitors offering superior to what Sony offered, and willfully choose them over Sony because their product offered more of what they wanted/a better product in the areas they find important - be it Microsoft or Nintendo - just doesn't compute with some people does it?

Bullet point lists (usually starting with PSN +) will be brought out, maps of Europe will be imageshacked into posts, spreadsheets with "aligned launches"  and coloured lines will be attached - lectures will be delivered with all the subtlety, nuance and narrow world view of a student politician guest lecturing a civics class - and not one crap will be given by people who are happy with their choice of console this generation.

Sony clearly acknowledge where their competitors have strengths (and usually try to mimic it 12-18 months later) - I don't see why Sony diehards (a special breed apart from the regular Sony fans - who are generally open minded and level headed) have to wait for the Sony version of a competitors product to come out before they acknowledge "innovation".

The unwashed masses of low IQ, low income, poorly educated Nintendo/MS users all yearn to be free under Sony! If only they knew it.

Keep up the good work.


I didn't say every single one I said that's why they are LEADING.  Big difference.  There are plenty of people who like Xbox live arcade games, halo, gears, etc and would have picked 360 over ps3 on an even playing field, but 70 million? I think not


What you said was - "Also I've admited multiple times I'm playing what if but all these people saying MS "earned" those sales or bought xbox because they thought it was legitimately a better console are talking out of their ass."


 I don't think that's really open to interpretation. You didn't specify either way, just a blanket statement, that you've chosen to append to now. Please don't say "I meant this"  when you actually said something else, then try to backtrack.

Easy for you to say "I may have gone a bit too far - what I meant was..." - which is all fair and good  - but to say " I actually said this" - when you DIDN'T - well that is the dictionary definition of  "talking from your arse."

Peace be with you - but I couldn't let such a wildly untrue statement remain unchallenged.

 



JimmyDanger on 31 December 2012
thismeintiel said:
J_Allard said:
platformmaster918 said:
J_Allard said:
Anecdotal evidence is irrelevant. I don't know any PS3 owners off of the Internet that play any Sony franchises. It's all Madden, Call of Duty, and Battlefield. See how that works? And guess what? Software sales show we're both right. 2 MS games in the 360's top 10 (again, not counting Kinect Adventures) and 2 Sony games in the PS3 top 10. Maybe people play CoD and other multiplatform games on 360 because they are better there? Anyone who has played CoD knows this to be the case.

If the 360 has a huge inflated user base because of RROD then what does that say about PS3 gamers in regards to software sales? Not a hot look.


Well ps3 has more exclusives so the sales are spread out rather than concentrated on 2 or 3 franchises for a whole gen

Again, in each console's top 10 you have only 2 games from MS and Sony. The rest are 3rd party and virtually the exact same breakdown of franchises/genre.

I am not sure what exclusives have to do with the sales of 3rd party games anyway. You said that gamers play such and such franchises on 360 only because it launched earlier and PS3 was too expensive, I am simply saying that in the case of a lot of franchises (especially the one you listed, CoD) people play it on 360 simply because it plays better there.

Technically, we don't know how well a lot of SW sells on the 360, since MS doesn't give SW numbers in their fiscal reports.  All we get are some of the numbers for top tier games, if a comany so chooses to release them.  For all we know, PS3 may have very well have passed it in SW totals.

And for all we know - there are people living on the moon.

We have plenty of other hard factual data from multiple reliable sources that suggests they don't, but hey, until we get their numbers - who can tell!

Viva la Moon People!



thismeintiel on 31 December 2012
JimmyDanger said:
thismeintiel said:
J_Allard said:

Again, in each console's top 10 you have only 2 games from MS and Sony. The rest are 3rd party and virtually the exact same breakdown of franchises/genre.

I am not sure what exclusives have to do with the sales of 3rd party games anyway. You said that gamers play such and such franchises on 360 only because it launched earlier and PS3 was too expensive, I am simply saying that in the case of a lot of franchises (especially the one you listed, CoD) people play it on 360 simply because it plays better there.

Technically, we don't know how well a lot of SW sells on the 360, since MS doesn't give SW numbers in their fiscal reports.  All we get are some of the numbers for top tier games, if a comany so chooses to release them.  For all we know, PS3 may have very well have passed it in SW totals.

And for all we know - there are people living on the moon.

We have plenty of other hard factual data from multiple reliable sources that suggests they don't, but hey, until we get their numbers - who can tell!

Viva la Moon People!

Only difference is your Moon People is a crazy statement, while mine could actually be true.  What hard reliable data are you speaking of?  Again, unless its a huge release, we never get any official data for 360 SW sales (except Japan).  At least Sony gives us a total each quarter.



 

slowmo on 31 December 2012
thismeintiel said:
JimmyDanger said:
thismeintiel said:
J_Allard said:

Again, in each console's top 10 you have only 2 games from MS and Sony. The rest are 3rd party and virtually the exact same breakdown of franchises/genre.

I am not sure what exclusives have to do with the sales of 3rd party games anyway. You said that gamers play such and such franchises on 360 only because it launched earlier and PS3 was too expensive, I am simply saying that in the case of a lot of franchises (especially the one you listed, CoD) people play it on 360 simply because it plays better there.

Technically, we don't know how well a lot of SW sells on the 360, since MS doesn't give SW numbers in their fiscal reports.  All we get are some of the numbers for top tier games, if a comany so chooses to release them.  For all we know, PS3 may have very well have passed it in SW totals.

And for all we know - there are people living on the moon.

We have plenty of other hard factual data from multiple reliable sources that suggests they don't, but hey, until we get their numbers - who can tell!

Viva la Moon People!

Only difference is your Moon People is a crazy statement, while mine could actually be true.  What hard reliable data are you speaking of?  Again, unless its a huge release, we never get any official data for 360 SW sales (except Japan).  At least Sony gives us a total each quarter.

The moon people statement is probably more likely than yours tbh...



thismeintiel on 31 December 2012
slowmo said:

The moon people statement is probably more likely than yours tbh...

Wishful thinking on your part.