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MrMafoo on 22 January 2008
Avinash_Tyagi said:
dtewi said:
Many people are going to see the PS3 as the better investment though for it plays video games as well and has plenty of other enjoyable features.

 Wrong again, most people don't care for the games on the PS3, GTA sells to 15 million over and over, that is not a large segment of the popualtion


This is just 100% wrong. Most people won't pay what is currently asked for the games on the PS3.

Saying most people don't want to play MG, GT, FF, Have, Uncharted, LBP, R&C, Resistance 1 and 2, HS is just false.

If not a single one of those games does not interest you, you are not a gamer.

 



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jankazimierz on 22 January 2008

I dont think the PS3 will outsell the WII, but I think it will outsell the 360 (most likely cause they will release a new Xbox system fairly soon). Plus i think that the PS3 will be the most popular system by 2009. It will be like the PS2 in that it will be strong into the next gen of systems.



Avinash_Tyagi on 22 January 2008
MrMafoo said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
dtewi said:
Many people are going to see the PS3 as the better investment though for it plays video games as well and has plenty of other enjoyable features.

 Wrong again, most people don't care for the games on the PS3, GTA sells to 15 million over and over, that is not a large segment of the popualtion


This is just 100% wrong. Most people won't pay what is currently asked for the games on the PS3.

Saying most people don't want to play MG, GT, FF, Have, Uncharted, LBP, R&C, Resistance 1 and 2, HS is just false.

If not a single one of those games does not interest you, you are not a gamer.

 


 Most people aren't traditional gamers



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

tombi123 on 22 January 2008
Avinash_Tyagi said:
tombi123 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

 

Was GTA3 the only game on the PS2? Is GTA4 going to be the only game on the PS3?

 

GTA was the highest selling games on the PS2, and PS3 lacks th casual games of the PS2 so it only has its hardcore games to carry it, games which indicate a potential arond 15-20 million


 LMFAO

The PS3 has Singstar, LBP, Buzz, GRAN TURISMO 5 etc which are casual games. It also has a lot of sports games.

15-20M hardcore gamers? Well, 15M GTA3, 7M FFX, 3M DMC, GT5 (both hardcore and casual) 15M etc. The PS3 will attract way more hardcore gamers then the xbox or Gamecube ever could. Xbox; if you don't like FPS your screwed, Gamecube; if you don't like Mario or Zelda your screwed.


 You really think Gran turismo is a causal game, lol, you really think most people are interested in a realistic racer?

 

The other games you mentioned may have some causual appeal, but they aren't the big draws outside Europe Singstar and Buzz sells poorly, you see this is where you get it wrong, they have limited appeal compared to the Wii games


Gran Turismo has a lot of casual appeal, especially in Europe. PS3 also has a much more diverse library than the xbox or gamecube. It also has the Playstation brand. 75M WW is realistic. 



MrMafoo on 22 January 2008

Another thing to think about, is right now if it was Wii VS HD Consoles, the Wii is losing.

If for one reason or another, this 360 vs PS3 war is won by MS or Sony, they can outsell the Wii.



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Slimebeast on 22 January 2008

TWRoO,

But how on earth can you have the X360 at only 30-40 mill? It released first in this gen, and a gen is usually 6 years, and it sells 8 mills per year at $350 (practically it's launch price), which is far from mass market price. The X360 won't be abandoned like the first Xbox. And this spring will see a significant price drop.

Did you people know that Xbox one cost $179 at this point in it's life (selling 6 mill per year) when the X360 is at $350?

6 years x 8mill = 48 mill is reasonable

(of course I believe +50 mill)



Avinash_Tyagi on 22 January 2008
tombi123 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
tombi123 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

 

Was GTA3 the only game on the PS2? Is GTA4 going to be the only game on the PS3?

 

GTA was the highest selling games on the PS2, and PS3 lacks th casual games of the PS2 so it only has its hardcore games to carry it, games which indicate a potential arond 15-20 million


 LMFAO

The PS3 has Singstar, LBP, Buzz, GRAN TURISMO 5 etc which are casual games. It also has a lot of sports games.

15-20M hardcore gamers? Well, 15M GTA3, 7M FFX, 3M DMC, GT5 (both hardcore and casual) 15M etc. The PS3 will attract way more hardcore gamers then the xbox or Gamecube ever could. Xbox; if you don't like FPS your screwed, Gamecube; if you don't like Mario or Zelda your screwed.


 You really think Gran turismo is a causal game, lol, you really think most people are interested in a realistic racer?

 

The other games you mentioned may have some causual appeal, but they aren't the big draws outside Europe Singstar and Buzz sells poorly, you see this is where you get it wrong, they have limited appeal compared to the Wii games


Gran Turismo has a lot of casual appeal, especially in Europe. PS3 also has a much more diverse library than the xbox or gamecube. It also has the Playstation brand. 75M WW is realistic. 


Brand means squat, if it did N64 would have beaten the PS1, what games on the PS3 give it a diverse library, in fact it shares a lot of its library with the 360

 as for GT, you say it has wide causal appeal yet it seems to sell in a similar range except when bundled 



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

tombi123 on 22 January 2008
Avinash_Tyagi said:
tombi123 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:


 You really think Gran turismo is a causal game, lol, you really think most people are interested in a realistic racer?

 

The other games you mentioned may have some causual appeal, but they aren't the big draws outside Europe Singstar and Buzz sells poorly, you see this is where you get it wrong, they have limited appeal compared to the Wii games


Gran Turismo has a lot of casual appeal, especially in Europe. PS3 also has a much more diverse library than the xbox or gamecube. It also has the Playstation brand. 75M WW is realistic. 


Brand means squat, if it did N64 would have beaten the PS1, what games on the PS3 give it a diverse library, in fact it shares a lot of its library with the 360

 as for GT, you say it has wide causal appeal yet it seems to sell in a similar range except when bundled 


 I was to young to know for certain, but I am pretty sure Sony had a better brand name than Nintendo in the mid nineties when the PS1 and N64 came out. 

Diverse, as in has a lot of games for each genre. Just look at the PS3's line up for 2008 and you will see.

By the way, 120M people bought a PS2 without it having Wiifit. 



konnichiwa on 22 January 2008

Dreamcast 2.






Avinash_Tyagi on 22 January 2008
tombi123 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
tombi123 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:


 You really think Gran turismo is a causal game, lol, you really think most people are interested in a realistic racer?

 

The other games you mentioned may have some causual appeal, but they aren't the big draws outside Europe Singstar and Buzz sells poorly, you see this is where you get it wrong, they have limited appeal compared to the Wii games


Gran Turismo has a lot of casual appeal, especially in Europe. PS3 also has a much more diverse library than the xbox or gamecube. It also has the Playstation brand. 75M WW is realistic. 


Brand means squat, if it did N64 would have beaten the PS1, what games on the PS3 give it a diverse library, in fact it shares a lot of its library with the 360

 as for GT, you say it has wide causal appeal yet it seems to sell in a similar range except when bundled 


 I was to young to know for certain, but I am pretty sure Sony had a better brand name than Nintendo in the mid nineties when the PS1 and N64 came out. 

Diverse, as in has a lot of games for each genre. Just look at the PS3's line up for 2008 and you will see.

By the way, 120M people bought a PS2 without it having Wiifit. 


 Not in video games, Nintendo was synonymous with video games, brand loyalty is a myth in this industry

Seen it not that impressed, a lot of hardcore games, but little to counter stuff like Wii fit

 Which is why Wii will sell more than 120 million 



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)