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Squilliam on 18 December 2012
yo_john117 said:
^^ Bungie's new IP is going to be a timed exclusive?

If I recall correctly it will be. I'd say it's going to release at the end of this year on the 360 and NeXt



Tease.

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yo_john117 on 18 December 2012
Squilliam said:
yo_john117 said:
^^ Bungie's new IP is going to be a timed exclusive?

If I recall correctly it will be. I'd say it's going to release at the end of this year on the 360 and NeXt

That's pretty surprising considering Activision is backing them on it.



S.T.A.G.E. on 18 December 2012
yo_john117 said:
Squilliam said:
yo_john117 said:
^^ Bungie's new IP is going to be a timed exclusive?

If I recall correctly it will be. I'd say it's going to release at the end of this year on the 360 and NeXt

That's pretty surprising considering Activision is backing them on it.


True, Id expect full exclusivity. Microsoft and Activision are relatively close. 



thranx on 18 December 2012
yo_john117 said:
Squilliam said:
yo_john117 said:
^^ Bungie's new IP is going to be a timed exclusive?

If I recall correctly it will be. I'd say it's going to release at the end of this year on the 360 and NeXt

That's pretty surprising considering Activision is backing them on it.


I think it was part of the deal Bungie made to leave MS. not sure wilkl try and find a link



thranx on 18 December 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
thranx said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Squilliam said:
slowmo said:
We get it STAGE, you hate Microsoft. Do everyone a favour and stop posting in every next Xbox thread about how Microsoft are some great evil entity please.

I tend to get that impression as well.


You guys are welcomed to your beliefs but their console has two games I like and their names are Halo and Gears. Those are my prime reasons for having the console, games. That is my major gripe with Microsoft, lack of competent game development. Everything they seem to think they are doing right has nothing to do with games, but rather to exploit and rape the industry of what its all about. I didnt come to feel this way about Microsofts movements with the Xbox 360 for a long period of time, for there was once a time where I was lashing out at Sony for making the wrong moves and praising Microsoft (the first three years of this gen). I give credit where its due, and take it away where it isnt deserved.


seeing as ms has some of the best selling exclusives i cant see how their game development is lacking competancy. I think they realise there is no point in over saturation of first party titles, when you can have third parties fill that gap nicely. It would be a different story if there was a lack of games or if ms was constantly closing studios. But as far as I know this year they have been opening and recruiting more studios than ever before, and they still have a great relationship with third parties. I have not seen a lack of games yet.  They are adding added functionaly that is all. Its not at the cost of their games either. Just more stuff, what is wrong with that?


Their best selling game is the same game they didnt start development with but bought off away from Apple and that is Halo. The idea and spirit of halo existed before Microsoft even got ahold of it. They paid Epic for their Gears game. Forza and Fable (and Forza) are the only semi popular in house games created by them. Halo is the game that made Microsoft relevant. They cannot be compared in actual in house games that survived. They've increased their party of companies but at the same time hope those games succeed because if they fail you know what Microsoft will do to them.

You said MS was incompentant with their studios. Their exclusives and their game sales say other wise. They keep good amounts of time between releases of the exclusives so they stay fresh. What is your problem with their games? There are plenty of games released for the 360, plent of high quality games, and all genres are coverd. If I am not mistaken sony started in the console biz by buying games also. what is wrong with that? they can buy a game or a studio no difference. Someone posted the list of all the MS studios, and they are growing. Seems like they are actually following in sonys footsteps, two gens in and now they are really recruiting and maintaing studios.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 19 December 2012
thranx said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
thranx said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Squilliam said:
slowmo said:
We get it STAGE, you hate Microsoft. Do everyone a favour and stop posting in every next Xbox thread about how Microsoft are some great evil entity please.

I tend to get that impression as well.


You guys are welcomed to your beliefs but their console has two games I like and their names are Halo and Gears. Those are my prime reasons for having the console, games. That is my major gripe with Microsoft, lack of competent game development. Everything they seem to think they are doing right has nothing to do with games, but rather to exploit and rape the industry of what its all about. I didnt come to feel this way about Microsofts movements with the Xbox 360 for a long period of time, for there was once a time where I was lashing out at Sony for making the wrong moves and praising Microsoft (the first three years of this gen). I give credit where its due, and take it away where it isnt deserved.


seeing as ms has some of the best selling exclusives i cant see how their game development is lacking competancy. I think they realise there is no point in over saturation of first party titles, when you can have third parties fill that gap nicely. It would be a different story if there was a lack of games or if ms was constantly closing studios. But as far as I know this year they have been opening and recruiting more studios than ever before, and they still have a great relationship with third parties. I have not seen a lack of games yet.  They are adding added functionaly that is all. Its not at the cost of their games either. Just more stuff, what is wrong with that?


Their best selling game is the same game they didnt start development with but bought off away from Apple and that is Halo. The idea and spirit of halo existed before Microsoft even got ahold of it. They paid Epic for their Gears game. Forza and Fable (and Forza) are the only semi popular in house games created by them. Halo is the game that made Microsoft relevant. They cannot be compared in actual in house games that survived. They've increased their party of companies but at the same time hope those games succeed because if they fail you know what Microsoft will do to them.

You said MS was incompentant with their studios. Their exclusives and their game sales say other wise. They keep good amounts of time between releases of the exclusives so they stay fresh. What is your problem with their games? There are plenty of games released for the 360, plent of high quality games, and all genres are coverd. If I am not mistaken sony started in the console biz by buying games also. what is wrong with that? they can buy a game or a studio no difference. Someone posted the list of all the MS studios, and they are growing. Seems like they are actually following in sonys footsteps, two gens in and now they are really recruiting and maintaing studios.


Theres no freshness, new IP's are fresh. Microsofts fresh titles are in the first three years of their console cycles. Their top titles much like Sony are on two year cycles, but the difference Sony has more new titles coming out that no ones seen and coming from so many genres. I have no problem with Halo and Gears, they are my reasons for buying an Xbox 360 in the first place. This isnt even about Sony, this is about Microsoft and their game development. Microsoft has been confronted time and time again over the last three years over their weak first party development and they've admitted that they are riding off of third parties. Microsoft has found a way to get around competitive first party development by having a cyclical use of two games plus COD on a cycle. Hopefully next gen Microsoft puts their new first party companies to the test. Why do you think people never expect much from Microsoft at E3? Once you figure that out, it becomes common sense what the problem is.

Gametrailers Bonus Round talking about it last sunday:

http://www.gametrailers.com/full-episodes/hem8pv/bonus-round-microsoft-in-2013



GameAnalyser on 19 December 2012

Well, still doesn't interest me one bit. I was looking for one thing whether Microsoft would use Blue-Ray or something else in the nextbox. They stated they would never go for Blue-Ray and it looks like they might have a proprietary hardware. It's yet to be seen.



Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 19 December 2012
GameAnalyser said:
Well, still doesn't interest me one bit. I was looking for one thing whether Microsoft would use Blue-Ray or something else in the nextbox. They stated they would never go for Blue-Ray and it looks like they might have a proprietary hardware. It's yet to be seen.


Its foolish to NOT have blu-ray. 



Yay!!!

thranx on 19 December 2012
GameAnalyser said:
Well, still doesn't interest me one bit. I was looking for one thing whether Microsoft would use Blue-Ray or something else in the nextbox. They stated they would never go for Blue-Ray and it looks like they might have a proprietary hardware. It's yet to be seen.


I dont think they ever stated that.



yo_john117 on 19 December 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
yo_john117 said:
Squilliam said:
yo_john117 said:
^^ Bungie's new IP is going to be a timed exclusive?

If I recall correctly it will be. I'd say it's going to release at the end of this year on the 360 and NeXt

That's pretty surprising considering Activision is backing them on it.


True, Id expect full exclusivity. Microsoft and Activision are relatively close. 

No, I'd expect almost the exact opposite actually. To my knowledge Activision has never given even timed exclusivity on one of their retail games (the only thing they do is timed exclusives for some DLC for some games) let alone full exclusivity. So I find it very surprising that they would do something like that.