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badgenome said:
gergroy said:

how could you know?  I'm too secret and dangerous for such knowledge to be public

Simple: I know about it because when I don't know anything about a group of people I just give myself over to my paranoid delusions about them. Mormons are the greatest force of evil known to mankind since the movie Force of Evil (1948, MGM Studios). Just ask Matt Stone and Trey Parker, who were (probably) brutally killed by Mormons after making fun of them on TV and on Broadway.

well, you should probably be careful then, some mormons might show up at your door... and try to talk to you... or something...



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EdHieron said:
mrstickball said:


So just because he didn't single them out means they were a Christian theocracy?

Go do some research on World War 2 and actual accounts of ministers and civilians during German occupations. They butchered a lot of Christian ministers simply for being Christian. Just because your numbers doesn't single them out doesn't mean they weren't targeted.


Christians kill a lot of Christians, it's true.  I guess you've never heard of the various Inquisitions, Witchhunts, and pogroms of the Middle Ages when they did just that.

If you're using that logic, you open up that can of worms about the atheists in the Soviet Union, China, North Korea, and Kampuchea. Do you really want to go that route again? Because there is a lot more death and murder that I can throw in your face if you want to continue your ill-thought out argument.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

Mr Khan said:

You and Ed both have to tone it down. Ed's already been warned.

I'll tone it down when Harold Bloom starts posting here. Until then, he remains a stupid cunt when he's talking about anything other than Western lit.

If repeatedly slurring (in a remarkably stupid and fact free way, I might add) the religion of someone who is posting in the very same thread isn't bannable, I don't see how anything I've said here can be considered even close to the line.



spaceguy said:
EdHieron said:
mrstickball said:
EdHieron said:
mrstickball said:

 

Hitler and the SS murdered approximately 40% of all Christian pastors and preists of churches during World War 2. One of Germany's greatest tactics was to murder all Christian leaders when they occupied a new nation. Anyone that disagreed with the Nazi regime were promptly killed.

Deitrich Boehnhoffer is a prime example of that.

 

 

 

Here is a list of the people that the Nazis are said to be most responsible for killing.

"The Nazi's killed over 11 million Jews, 'gypsies', disabled, Poles, Soviet civilians, homosexuals, Communists. If you add in the 3.3 million Soviet prisoners of war killed in German camps the total is much higher."
(http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_did_the_Nazis_kill)

Do you see mass numbers of Christians being singled out?

Also, the only country where Christians were singled out to be in Nazi concentration camps was Poland.  And the vast majority of Christians that the Nazis were considered to be responsible for killing were killed not because of their Christianity but because they were enemy combatants ( http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110829171617AAc6Dxf ).


So just because he didn't single them out means they were a Christian theocracy?

Go do some research on World War 2 and actual accounts of ministers and civilians during German occupations. They butchered a lot of Christian ministers simply for being Christian. Just because your numbers doesn't single them out doesn't mean they weren't targeted.


Christians kill a lot of Christians, it's true.  I guess you've never heard of the various Inquisitions, Witchhunts, and pogroms of the Middle Ages when they did just that.


The pope was on caucusing with hitler. You kidding.

Pope Pius XII had an ambigous relationship with the Nazis.  On the one hand he never denounced many of Hitler's attrocities on the other hand he often spoke in other ways that could be seen as his trying to behave in whatever way would be the most politically advantageous to himself ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_XII#Holocaust ).

 

Many Nazis thought God was on their side and they considered themselves to be Christians

 

Hitler himself said that he would always be a Catholic (  http://cellophanetales.angelfire.com/blog/ ).



EdHieron said:

Pope Pius XII had an ambigous relationship with the Nazis.  On the one hand he never denounced many of Hitler's attrocities on the other hand he often spoke in other ways that could be seen as his trying to behave in whatever way would be the most politically advantageous to himself ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_XII#Holocaust ).

 

Many Nazis thought God was on their side and they considered themselves to be Christians

 

Hitler himself said that he would always be a Catholic (  http://cellophanetales.angelfire.com/blog/ ).

Are you purposefully ignoring things other people have posted?



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leatherhat said:

Are you purposefully ignoring things other people have posted?

Hitler one time said that he was a Catholic and always would be, so it doesn't matter what else he said about Christianity, and just like Stone Cold Steve Austin said, that's the bottom line!



badgenome said:
leatherhat said:

Are you purposefully ignoring things other people have posted?

Hitler one time said that he was a Catholic and always would be, so it doesn't matter what else he said about Christianity, and just like Stone Cold Steve Austin said, that's the bottom line!

Austin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass! - Steve Austin

I'm smelling a conspiracy 



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leatherhat said:

Austin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass! - Steve Austin

I'm smelling a conspiracy 

All those Stone Cold Stunners were just another example of Bible-inspired violence.



badgenome said:
leatherhat said:

Austin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass! - Steve Austin

I'm smelling a conspiracy 

All those Stone Cold Stunners were just another example of Bible-inspired violence.


Truly the greates force of evil the world has ever seen. Only Mr. Socko can compare.



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badgenome said:
Mr Khan said:

You and Ed both have to tone it down. Ed's already been warned.

I'll tone it down when Harold Bloom starts posting here. Until then, he remains a stupid cunt when he's talking about anything other than Western lit.

If repeatedly slurring (in a remarkably stupid and fact free way, I might add) the religion of someone who is posting in the very same thread isn't bannable, I don't see how anything I've said here can be considered even close to the line.


Funny thing is that when Mormons show up to your house they don't tend to start to tell you about the fact that according to their theology that God lives on planet Kolob, that even though they told the United States government that they had stopped sanctioning polygamous marriages in 1890 that they were still carrying them out with the full approval of their prophet at the time until as late as 1910 and possibly longer since the #1 researcher into the matter was fired from his position at BYU in the 1990s for being concerned with actual history rather than faith promoting history ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_history ) no one knows how long they continued them. 

They've certainly been secretive about the Mountain Meadows Massacre of September 11, 1857 when they murdererd 120+ men, women, and children in cold blood and about Bringham Young's involvement in the matter ( http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Prophets-Brigham-Massacre-Mountain/dp/0806136391/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355362122&sr=8-1&keywords=blood+of+the+prophets ).

Nor are they very forthcoming about their White Horse Prophecy which calls for the establishment of a Mormon Theocracy on the American continent after a time of violent upheaval which is discussed at length in Richard Abanes' book "One Nation Under Gods" wherein he also lays out point by point that by all established academic criteria Mormonism is a secretive and dangerous cult ( http://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-Gods-History/dp/1568582838/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1355362310&sr=1-1&keywords=one+nation+under+gods ).

Harold Bloom's highly regarded book "The American Religion" contains a stringent and accurate critique of the Mormonism ( http://www.amazon.com/American-Religion-Emergence-Post-Christian-Nation/dp/0671867377/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1355362470&sr=1-2&keywords=the+american+religion ).