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Do Nintendo and Microsoft fans like each other?

Yes 137 48.41%
 
No 78 27.56%
 
I'm gonna fuck with your poll so hard! 68 24.03%
 
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enditall727 said:

what makes you say that?

 

why do you think Nintendo went with cartridges when the others chose discs?

I just get the sense that you're irate. But anyways, the history of video games tells me that. Nintendo wanted a disc-based system, and they only changed their minds after the Sony affair. Otherwise, why do you think they invested in the Nintendo Playstation, the Phillips CD-based SNES add-on that never happened?

From wikipedia (on Phillips CD-i):

"Nintendo and Philips had established an agreement to co-develop a CD-ROM enhancement for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System due to licensing disagreements with Nintendo's previous partner Sony (an agreement that produced a prototype console called the Play Station). While Philips and Nintendo never released such a CD-ROM add-on, Philips was still contractually allowed to continue using Nintendo characters."

In another source I also read that that was something Nintendo actively wanted to use for its system. Things changed due to Sony and its PS1.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
KungKras said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 


They weren't going to go to Sega...I really don't know where you're getting this. Nintendo was who they were slated to have those games for before Sony changed the dev plans. This is going in circles because you cant deal with the reality that third party devs were on better terms with Nintendo and gained new favor with Sony in ways never Sega could never measured up to. Sega had awesome first party so thats pretty much all I ever played on their platforms.

Yes they would, in fact they did. Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Wipeout, Psygnosis Games, Croc, etc were all Saturn games, those series didn't continue on the Saturn because of the Playstation, not the N64, please get it though your head.

Sega wasn't favored by the majority of the third parties as I said before, you seem to keep ignoring that part. Second of all state how well Sega did with the Dreamcast and third parties. Those games were multiplats and not exclusives. I will not continue with this conversation, Sega had an incompotent staff in both America and Japan and they both screwed the company up in so many different ways.

You still haven't provided any evidence to support this while I can point to the Megadrive library to prove this isn't the case. Unless you belive third party games = RPG games.

Fine, this has felt like arguing with a wall anyways.



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happydolphin said:
enditall727 said:

what makes you say that?

 

why do you think Nintendo went with cartridges when the others chose discs?

I just get the sense that you're irate. But anyways, the history of video games tells me that. Nintendo wanted a disc-based system, and they only changed their minds after the Sony affair. Otherwise, why do you think they invested in the Nintendo Playstation, the Phillips CD-based SNES add-on that never happened?

From wikipedia (on Phillips CD-i):

"Nintendo and Philips had established an agreement to co-develop a CD-ROM enhancement for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System due to licensing disagreements with Nintendo's previous partner Sony (an agreement that produced a prototype console called the Play Station). While Philips and Nintendo never released such a CD-ROM add-on, Philips was still contractually allowed to continue using Nintendo characters."

In another source I also read that that was something Nintendo actively wanted to use for its system. Things changed due to Sony and its PS1.

what would i be irate about?

 

????

 

Nintendo and Sony were supposed to team up but didn't Nintendo pull out when they originally wanted to use the  CD-ROM?

 

what made them go with cartridges when they originally wanted to go with the CD-ROM like the others?



enditall727 said:

what would i be irate about?

 

Nintendo and Sony were supposed to team up but didn't Nintendo pull out when they originally wanted to use the  CD-ROM?

 

what made them go with cartridges when they originally wanted to go with the CD-ROM like the others?

You're just irate, it pervades in your posts.

The whole affair left a very sour taste in the mouth of Yamauchi, and he basically said "Fuck it". I don't have the source right now, but that's my understanding of it.

The things got delayed so long and they came in contact with the silicon graphics technology and my guess is it used/required cartridges and, well, "voilà".

If it just ended at Sony, I don't think Nintendo would give money away to Phillips like that, it doesn't make sense. And if Nintendo didn't want discs, they wouldn't have contracted Sony to do their Nintendo Playstation in the first place.

Cheers.



happydolphin said:
enditall727 said:

what would i be irate about?

 

Nintendo and Sony were supposed to team up but didn't Nintendo pull out when they originally wanted to use the  CD-ROM?

 

what made them go with cartridges when they originally wanted to go with the CD-ROM like the others?

You're just irate, it pervades in your posts.

The whole affair left a very sour taste in the mouth of Yamauchi, and he basically said "Fuck it". I don't have the source right now, but that's my understanding of it.

The things got delayed so long and they came in contact with the silicon graphics technology and my guess is it used/required cartridges and, well, "voilà".

If it just ended at Sony, I don't think Nintendo would give money away to Phillips like that, it doesn't make sense. And if Nintendo didn't want discs, they wouldn't have contracted Sony to do their Nintendo Playstation in the first place.

Cheers.

"However, the two companies conflicted over control of the licensing. Under their agreement, Sony would develop and retain control over the SNES-CD disc format, effectively ceding a large amount of control over software licensing to Sony. To counter this, Nintendo president Hiroshi Yamauchi sent Nintendo of America president Minoru Arakawa and executive Howard Lincoln to Europe to negotiate a more favorable deal with Philips, Sony's industry rival. At the June 1991 Consumer Electronics Show, Sony announced its SNES-compatible cartridge/CD console, the "Play Station". The next day, Nintendo revealed its partnership with Philips via a surprise announcement at the show."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNES-CD

"Sometime in 1988 Sony began working on the prototype of the SNES-CD also called, "Playstation". This new addon was to be attached at the bottom of the SNES. The top would allow for catridges to be loaded and the add-on for CD's to be inserted. Along the lines of the contract agreement, Sony would earn the royalty for games released in the CD format. As confirmed before, Nintendo earned its profits from royalties of games released on their consoles."

http://voices.yahoo.com/the-downfall-nintendo-sony-rose-prominence-112912.html



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happydolphin said:
enditall727 said:

what would i be irate about?

 

Nintendo and Sony were supposed to team up but didn't Nintendo pull out when they originally wanted to use the  CD-ROM?

 

what made them go with cartridges when they originally wanted to go with the CD-ROM like the others?

You're just irate, it pervades in your posts.

The whole affair left a very sour taste in the mouth of Yamauchi, and he basically said "Fuck it". I don't have the source right now, but that's my understanding of it.

The things got delayed so long and they came in contact with the silicon graphics technology and my guess is it used/required cartridges and, well, "voilà".

If it just ended at Sony, I don't think Nintendo would give money away to Phillips like that, it doesn't make sense. And if Nintendo didn't want discs, they wouldn't have contracted Sony to do their Nintendo Playstation in the first place.

Cheers.

you said something on a subject that i always wondered about(N64 not using the CD-ROM)

i ask you a question about it and then you claim that i'm irate??

 

?????

 

I just dont see why they went with Cartridges when they were originally going to go with the CD-ROM..



enditall727 said:

you said something on a subject that i always wondered about(N64 not using the CD-ROM)

i ask you a question about it and then you claim that i'm irate??

 

?????

 

I just dont see why they went with Cartridges when they were originally going to go with the CD-ROM..


Check my post response to his.  The answer lies within.  They were so butthurt over the dealings during the 16 bit era that they perhaps said fuck it when it comes to CDROM for the N64.  The 64DD doubled the N64 MB capacity but was still short of the CD-ROM.  64 Cart (4-64 MB) 64DD (64 MB) so it doubled the N64 capacity. 

Sony's CD storage could hold approximately 650 megabytes (MB) of information

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_64DD



sethnintendo said:
happydolphin said:
enditall727 said:

what would i be irate about?

 

Nintendo and Sony were supposed to team up but didn't Nintendo pull out when they originally wanted to use the  CD-ROM?

 

what made them go with cartridges when they originally wanted to go with the CD-ROM like the others?

You're just irate, it pervades in your posts.

The whole affair left a very sour taste in the mouth of Yamauchi, and he basically said "Fuck it". I don't have the source right now, but that's my understanding of it.

The things got delayed so long and they came in contact with the silicon graphics technology and my guess is it used/required cartridges and, well, "voilà".

If it just ended at Sony, I don't think Nintendo would give money away to Phillips like that, it doesn't make sense. And if Nintendo didn't want discs, they wouldn't have contracted Sony to do their Nintendo Playstation in the first place.

Cheers.

"However, the two companies conflicted over control of the licensing. Under their agreement, Sony would develop and retain control over the SNES-CD disc format, effectively ceding a large amount of control over software licensing to Sony. To counter this, Nintendo president Hiroshi Yamauchi sent Nintendo of America president Minoru Arakawa and executive Howard Lincoln to Europe to negotiate a more favorable deal with Philips, Sony's industry rival. At the June 1991 Consumer Electronics Show, Sony announced its SNES-compatible cartridge/CD console, the "Play Station". The next day, Nintendo revealed its partnership with Philips via a surprise announcement at the show."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNES-CD

"Sometime in 1988 Sony began working on the prototype of the SNES-CD also called, "Playstation". This new addon was to be attached at the bottom of the SNES. The top would allow for catridges to be loaded and the add-on for CD's to be inserted. Along the lines of the contract agreement, Sony would earn the royalty for games released in the CD format. As confirmed before, Nintendo earned its profits from royalties of games released on their consoles."

http://voices.yahoo.com/the-downfall-nintendo-sony-rose-prominence-112912.html

ohhhhhhhh so that's what happened?

 

Sony got played by Nintendo with that Phillip reveal LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

now I understand the split. They couldn't agree on where the money for the games would go if they partnered with each other.



enditall727 said:

ohhhhhhhh so that's what happened?

 

Sony got played by Nintendo with that Phillip reveal LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

now I understand the split. They couldn't agree on where the money for the games would go if they partnered with each other.


Yea that was the split they couldn't figure out how to divide the royalties.



happydolphin said:
enditall727 said:

what makes you say that?

 

why do you think Nintendo went with cartridges when the others chose discs?

I just get the sense that you're irate. But anyways, the history of video games tells me that. Nintendo wanted a disc-based system, and they only changed their minds after the Sony affair. Otherwise, why do you think they invested in the Nintendo Playstation, the Phillips CD-based SNES add-on that never happened?

From wikipedia (on Phillips CD-i):

"Nintendo and Philips had established an agreement to co-develop a CD-ROM enhancement for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System due to licensing disagreements with Nintendo's previous partner Sony (an agreement that produced a prototype console called the Play Station). While Philips and Nintendo never released such a CD-ROM add-on, Philips was still contractually allowed to continue using Nintendo characters."

In another source I also read that that was something Nintendo actively wanted to use for its system. Things changed due to Sony and its PS1.

oh wait, my bad

 

i see why you thought i was irate

 

when i said --> why do you think Nintendo went with cartridges when the others chose discs?

i was asking for your opinion of why you thought they decided to go with cartridges since you said that they would have had CD's sooner if it weren't for Sony. I wasn't saying it like "oh they were forced to go with Cartridges since they fell out with Sony "

 

i also overlooked what you put about the Phillips part in this post because it didn't say anything about why they ultimately went with cartridges

 

my bad though ;)

 

but i still dont know what made Nintendo decide that cartridges were the best choice to roll with though. I'm guessing that Nintendo just didn't want to split ANY of the profits with phillip OR Sony when it all came down to it. I guess they got almost 100% of the royalties(or whatever) with the cartridges. I guess i cant really blame Nintendo for that

 

but god damn did Nintendo own the fuck out of Sony with that Phillip reveal LMAO XD

 

i can't believe Nintendo actually did that sh!t LOL!!!!