JayWood2010 said: outlawauron said: JayWood2010 said: Barozi said: JayWood2010 said: cunger said: I thought we were talking consoles..  Fighters don't work well on handhelds and Tekken is the wrong exclusive for Nintendo. That game is better suited to cross platform. There is no point to having a fighter be exclusive to a console unless you're going to have it be on a Nintendo console and have Nintendo characters in it. If you do it right it will work because Nintendo fans are very passionate about their icons. I bought Soul Calibur on cube mainly due to the exclusive inclusion of Link however I'm not sure adding a Sony icon would have the same effect on Sony fans. They aren't as into their icons. Killer Instinct is another example of an exclusive and very unique fighter to do well on Nintendo. I can't think of any exclusive fighters this gen besides Dead or Alive 4 for 360 and it didnt sell above 1 million(low install base).  Im sure there is other exclusives but i cant think of any.  Comparing game trends 10 years ago will probably be different now.  However Super Smash Bros sells extremely well and its in the same genre as all stars so you have that.  So exclusive fighters can sell well if done right Dead Or Alive sold 1.01m units until ioi decided for whatever reason to completely remove the European sales of 2006-2010. Obviously that was not an adjustment. Really?  Why did he do that?  That's kind of messed up European sales are easily the most fickle number/object. I don't understand that though. Sold is sold right?   I really liked Dead or Alive 4 too.  Dead or Alive and Mortal Kombat are probably my two favorite technical fighters

Sold is sold, but Europe is a much wider area with numerous trends that differ across each country and culture. Makes extrapolating very tough.

Jaywood said

Games that are recieved well do tend to sell more which is what Ive been stating since the beginning. You think this game will have legs and push 1m. yes that is plausible if that is what you want to hear? But i find it more plausible that it will do 700k-900k if it doesn't get bundled. If it gets bundled then it will for sure reach 1m. The only part you seem to disagree with is the 700k-900k part and since then you have been stating that Im wrong, so we will see. if Im wrong then i will be more than happy to admit it but you cant prove anything until that point and neither can I. But using a few games that sold over 1m when there is 100's that hasnt is not a good argument.



Thank you! You've just agreed to my point! I'm not seeing this game will sell over 1m. It may very well sell 700-900k. Like you said, its perfectly plausible either way. At this point, WE DON'T KNOW. That was my entire point. I'm not saying its definitely going to sell 1m. My point is its plausible, which you just agreed to. Therefore, you should not be jumping the gun by calling the game a flop. Again, you cannot call the game a flop because at this point, as I've illustrated above, there is no conclusive evidence that it will flop. There is no conclusive evidence that it will sell only 700-900k. I'm not saying it will or won't flop. YOU are calling it a flop. YOU are making the claim. My point was to show you that your claim is at the moment unsupported.

Go back to the beginning of the thread to see my point more clearly.

This thread is premature.

Jay520 said: Jaywood said Games that are recieved well do tend to sell more which is what Ive been stating since the beginning. You think this game will have legs and push 1m. yes that is plausible if that is what you want to hear? But i find it more plausible that it will do 700k-900k if it doesn't get bundled. If it gets bundled then it will for sure reach 1m. The only part you seem to disagree with is the 700k-900k part and since then you have been stating that Im wrong, so we will see. if Im wrong then i will be more than happy to admit it but you cant prove anything until that point and neither can I. But using a few games that sold over 1m when there is 100's that hasnt is not a good argument. Thank you! You've just agreed to my point! I'm not seeing this game will sell over 1m. It may very well sell 700-900k. Like you said, its perfectly plausible either way. At this point, WE DON'T KNOW. That was my entire point. I'm not saying its definitely going to sell 1m. My point is its plausible, which you just agreed to. Therefore, you should not be jumping the gun by calling the game a flop. Again, you cannot call the game a flop because at this point, as I've illustrated above, there is no conclusive evidence that it will flop. There is no conclusive evidence that it will sell only 700-900k. I'm not saying it will or won't flop. YOU are calling it a flop. YOU are making the claim. My point was to show you that your claim is at the moment unsupported.

Fair enough.  Honestly I hope it makes a profit.  I do stand behind it flopping reviews wise but Ill agree that we need to give the game time to truely say anything.  That is just my prediction, whether it holds up is a different story.  I still don't understand why they haven't decided to bundle it yet though.  It is the perfect game to do so.

However I'm pretty sure the only people this is really targeting is the people who made crazy 3m+ predictions.  

I don't remember who made the silly prediction about this game outselling the original smash. Did he post on this thread yet? All I have to say to this is 150k units sold, only over 5million to go :P

I don't understand ppl saying this game will have legs. Don't they realise that this gen is coming to an end? I know I'm not expecting the ps4 till 2014 but still, with or w/o legs, how much can it rly sell during the next 2years? I also imagine games selling less and less as time goes on for this gen's hardware, just like what happened to the Wii games.
Now I'll make a prediction of my own... It's a matter of time before we see a thread called ''Beyond two souls is a major flop! We need to talk about this'' lol

I wish I could say I'm shocked but...

I don't know what Sony's expectations were but they seem to be bringing back the good ol' phat PS3 arrogance.

@ Jaywood

The game should have no problem making a profit. It looks like an extremely low budget PSN game. Probably didn't use many resources and could make profit with 500k, if not less.

Jay520 said: @ Jaywood The game should have no problem making a profit. It looks like an extremely low budget PSN game. Probably didn't use many resources and could make profit with 500k, if not less.

Well whatever it is I hope they make it pass that number for two reasons.  1 I still believe they can make a good(better) brawler and two i don't want developers to go under.

i was expecting this to open with atleast 250k but whatever

i still hope this bitch can climb to 3 million ltd though >=)

but at the same time i was also expecting characters like Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Sora and Cloud to be in the game with stages like "Burning Nibelheim"

they also didn't include the sh!t that was shown in the early build with the Warhawk/Uncharted stage and what not SMGDH!!!!