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JayWood2010 said:
riderz13371 said:
sales2099 said:
riderz13371 said:
sales2099 said:
riderz13371 said:
sales2099 said:
This is an age old argument and yet Live keeps bringing in more money then PSN and gamers keep paying for it.

FYI, Love your sig, its so deliciously reliant on non-PS3 consoles to make your point :P

I made it just for you. Once I saw your sig I decided to completely obliterate the Forza Vs GT war. =)

I take up free rent inside your head basically :). Mines more current though, being localized in the current gen and between only 2 consoles.

I'm thinking of you all the time baby. Whenever I imagine you I always think of the troll face because of your profile pic. I don't know what it's referencing to but it looks like a troll to me lol.

General Raam....the boss of Gears of War 1. Seriously?

Given how that spurred Live Gold sales before Halo 3 from 2006-2007......your not qualified to make threads like this anymore lol.

I had a feeling it was someone from gears of war but just didn't want to say it without knowing for sure, and i cant be asred to do a google search because I hate gears of war lol. 

Edit - Not saying it's a bad game, but it's just not my cup of tea. Sort of like how I hate Resistance. The games feel to dark and brown for me and makes me depressed everytime I try to play lol.

Since this thread isn't dead yet I have a real question for you.  What multiplayer games have you played and put a significant amount of time in?  And are you good?

Well that all depends on how you define "good". I've tried Halo 1 and 2 but they weren't for me and I can't remember my k/d or w/l. Honestly the first game that I actually paid attention to in terms of what my k/d was is probably MW2. My kd was around a 1.4. On Battlefield 3 I have a 2.1 k/d and 1.7 w/l. Black ops 1 I have a 1.9 k/d and like a 1 w/l (I always play solo tdm and get retarded teammates). Just bought Bad Company 2 (dling right now) and if you want i'll update you in a week as to how my stats on that are. I've played other multiplayer games but just haven't really payed attention to my stats such as uncharted 3 and killzone 3. I play them more to have fun rather than to try hard. 

Edit - What about you?



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riderz13371 said:
JayWood2010 said:
riderz13371 said:
sales2099 said:
riderz13371 said:
sales2099 said:
riderz13371 said:
sales2099 said:
This is an age old argument and yet Live keeps bringing in more money then PSN and gamers keep paying for it.

FYI, Love your sig, its so deliciously reliant on non-PS3 consoles to make your point :P

I made it just for you. Once I saw your sig I decided to completely obliterate the Forza Vs GT war. =)

I take up free rent inside your head basically :). Mines more current though, being localized in the current gen and between only 2 consoles.

I'm thinking of you all the time baby. Whenever I imagine you I always think of the troll face because of your profile pic. I don't know what it's referencing to but it looks like a troll to me lol.

General Raam....the boss of Gears of War 1. Seriously?

Given how that spurred Live Gold sales before Halo 3 from 2006-2007......your not qualified to make threads like this anymore lol.

I had a feeling it was someone from gears of war but just didn't want to say it without knowing for sure, and i cant be asred to do a google search because I hate gears of war lol. 

Edit - Not saying it's a bad game, but it's just not my cup of tea. Sort of like how I hate Resistance. The games feel to dark and brown for me and makes me depressed everytime I try to play lol.

Since this thread isn't dead yet I have a real question for you.  What multiplayer games have you played and put a significant amount of time in?  And are you good?

Well that all depends on how you define "good". I've tried Halo 1 and 2 but they weren't for me and I can't remember my k/d or w/l. Honestly the first game that I actually paid attention to in terms of what my k/d was is probably MW2. My kd was around a 1.4. On Battlefield 3 I have a 2.1 k/d and 1.7 w/l. Black ops 1 I have a 1.9 k/d and like a 1 w/l (I always play solo tdm and get retarded teammates). Just bought Bad Company 2 (dling right now) and if you want i'll update you in a week as to how my stats on that are. I've played other multiplayer games but just haven't really payed attention to my stats such as uncharted 3 and killzone 3. I play them more to have fun rather than to try hard. 

Edit - What about you?


Halo 1-4, Unreal Tournament, Call of Duty 4-MW3, Gears of War 1-3, Killzone 2, Battlefield 3, Counterstrike, would be the games I put a significant amount of time that I can think of atm. I bring this up because I get you like PSN but you haven't sounded like much of a multiplayer gamer either.  Sony makes great games but they haven't made compelling multiplayer games.  Most multiplayer games that are being played on PSN is multiplatform.  Not saying that matters all that much but you have been making comparisons on things you havent played in what 6 years?  I mean you didn't even know that Raam was from Gears but you are making comparisons.  Leave comparisons to multplatform gamers.

Anyways as far statistics I can't say I remember all of them but for the ones I remember.

Halo 4-2.06 K/D 110 wins-50 losses with randoms.

Gears of War 3- 2.4 k/D 5.0 W/L

Unreal Tournamant 3- 3.0+ K/D

All CoD games 2.0+ K/D 30%+ accuracy

Killzone 2- 120 wins and 11 losses.

Battlefield 3 I just suck at to be honest. 




       

JayWood2010 said:
riderz13371 said:
JayWood2010 said:
riderz13371 said:
sales2099 said:
riderz13371 said:
sales2099 said:
riderz13371 said:
sales2099 said:
This is an age old argument and yet Live keeps bringing in more money then PSN and gamers keep paying for it.

FYI, Love your sig, its so deliciously reliant on non-PS3 consoles to make your point :P

I made it just for you. Once I saw your sig I decided to completely obliterate the Forza Vs GT war. =)

I take up free rent inside your head basically :). Mines more current though, being localized in the current gen and between only 2 consoles.

I'm thinking of you all the time baby. Whenever I imagine you I always think of the troll face because of your profile pic. I don't know what it's referencing to but it looks like a troll to me lol.

General Raam....the boss of Gears of War 1. Seriously?

Given how that spurred Live Gold sales before Halo 3 from 2006-2007......your not qualified to make threads like this anymore lol.

I had a feeling it was someone from gears of war but just didn't want to say it without knowing for sure, and i cant be asred to do a google search because I hate gears of war lol. 

Edit - Not saying it's a bad game, but it's just not my cup of tea. Sort of like how I hate Resistance. The games feel to dark and brown for me and makes me depressed everytime I try to play lol.

Since this thread isn't dead yet I have a real question for you.  What multiplayer games have you played and put a significant amount of time in?  And are you good?

Well that all depends on how you define "good". I've tried Halo 1 and 2 but they weren't for me and I can't remember my k/d or w/l. Honestly the first game that I actually paid attention to in terms of what my k/d was is probably MW2. My kd was around a 1.4. On Battlefield 3 I have a 2.1 k/d and 1.7 w/l. Black ops 1 I have a 1.9 k/d and like a 1 w/l (I always play solo tdm and get retarded teammates). Just bought Bad Company 2 (dling right now) and if you want i'll update you in a week as to how my stats on that are. I've played other multiplayer games but just haven't really payed attention to my stats such as uncharted 3 and killzone 3. I play them more to have fun rather than to try hard. 

Edit - What about you?


Halo 1-4, Unreal Tournament, Call of Duty 4-MW3, Gears of War 1-3, Killzone 2, Battlefield 3, Counterstrike, would be the games I put a significant amount of time that I can think of atm. I bring this up because I get you like PSN but you haven't sounded like much of a multiplayer gamer either.  Sony makes great games but they haven't made compelling multiplayer games.  Most multiplayer games that are being played on PSN is multiplatform.  Not saying that matters all that much but you have been making comparisons on things you havent played in what 6 years?  I mean you didn't even know that Raam was from Gears but you are making comparisons.  Leave comparisons to multplatform gamers.

Anyways as far statistics I can't say I remember all of them but for the ones I remember.

Halo 4-2.06 K/D 110 wins-50 losses with randoms.

Gears of War 3- 2.4 k/D 5.0 W/L

Unreal Tournamant 3- 3.0+ K/D

All CoD games 2.0+ K/D 30%+ accuracy

Killzone 2- 120 wins and 11 losses.

Battlefield 3 I just suck at to be honest. 

I have played Halo and Gears and like I said I don't like them so it is fair to make comparisons. But i'm not even comparing anything. This thread is about xbl not halo and gears. I'm not comparing the games Microsoft offers, i'm comparing the service. The things that I said in my OP still exist 5 years laters so the opinion is still (sadly) relevant. 



riderz13371 said:
JayWood2010 said:
riderz13371 said:
JayWood2010 said:
riderz13371 said:
sales2099 said:
riderz13371 said:
sales2099 said:
riderz13371 said:
sales2099 said:
This is an age old argument and yet Live keeps bringing in more money then PSN and gamers keep paying for it.

FYI, Love your sig, its so deliciously reliant on non-PS3 consoles to make your point :P

I made it just for you. Once I saw your sig I decided to completely obliterate the Forza Vs GT war. =)

I take up free rent inside your head basically :). Mines more current though, being localized in the current gen and between only 2 consoles.

I'm thinking of you all the time baby. Whenever I imagine you I always think of the troll face because of your profile pic. I don't know what it's referencing to but it looks like a troll to me lol.

General Raam....the boss of Gears of War 1. Seriously?

Given how that spurred Live Gold sales before Halo 3 from 2006-2007......your not qualified to make threads like this anymore lol.

I had a feeling it was someone from gears of war but just didn't want to say it without knowing for sure, and i cant be asred to do a google search because I hate gears of war lol. 

Edit - Not saying it's a bad game, but it's just not my cup of tea. Sort of like how I hate Resistance. The games feel to dark and brown for me and makes me depressed everytime I try to play lol.

Since this thread isn't dead yet I have a real question for you.  What multiplayer games have you played and put a significant amount of time in?  And are you good?

Well that all depends on how you define "good". I've tried Halo 1 and 2 but they weren't for me and I can't remember my k/d or w/l. Honestly the first game that I actually paid attention to in terms of what my k/d was is probably MW2. My kd was around a 1.4. On Battlefield 3 I have a 2.1 k/d and 1.7 w/l. Black ops 1 I have a 1.9 k/d and like a 1 w/l (I always play solo tdm and get retarded teammates). Just bought Bad Company 2 (dling right now) and if you want i'll update you in a week as to how my stats on that are. I've played other multiplayer games but just haven't really payed attention to my stats such as uncharted 3 and killzone 3. I play them more to have fun rather than to try hard. 

Edit - What about you?


Halo 1-4, Unreal Tournament, Call of Duty 4-MW3, Gears of War 1-3, Killzone 2, Battlefield 3, Counterstrike, would be the games I put a significant amount of time that I can think of atm. I bring this up because I get you like PSN but you haven't sounded like much of a multiplayer gamer either.  Sony makes great games but they haven't made compelling multiplayer games.  Most multiplayer games that are being played on PSN is multiplatform.  Not saying that matters all that much but you have been making comparisons on things you havent played in what 6 years?  I mean you didn't even know that Raam was from Gears but you are making comparisons.  Leave comparisons to multplatform gamers.

Anyways as far statistics I can't say I remember all of them but for the ones I remember.

Halo 4-2.06 K/D 110 wins-50 losses with randoms.

Gears of War 3- 2.4 k/D 5.0 W/L

Unreal Tournamant 3- 3.0+ K/D

All CoD games 2.0+ K/D 30%+ accuracy

Killzone 2- 120 wins and 11 losses.

Battlefield 3 I just suck at to be honest. 

I have played Halo and Gears and like I said I don't like them so it is fair to make comparisons. But i'm not even comparing anything. This thread is about xbl not halo and gears. I'm not comparing the games Microsoft offers, i'm comparing the service. The things that I said in my OP still exist 5 years laters so the opinion is still (sadly) relevant. 


And how much has both PSN and XBL changed in 5 years?  You have made it very obvious time after time that you are a sony gamer which is your decision but comparing something that you know little about while on top pf that you are bias towards one it is not right for you to continue making these type of threads.

Now Im leaving.  Hopefully this thread dies soon because it is just bad.




       


And how much has both PSN and XBL changed in 5 years?  You have made it very obvious time after time that you are a sony gamer which is your decision but comparing something that you know little about while on top pf that you are bias towards one it is not right for you to continue making these type of threads.

PSN is free?



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riderz13371 said:


And how much has both PSN and XBL changed in 5 years?  You have made it very obvious time after time that you are a sony gamer which is your decision but comparing something that you know little about while on top pf that you are bias towards one it is not right for you to continue making these type of threads.

PSN is free?


Irrelevant to how good each service is.  PSN has been worthless to me for the 6 years I've owned PS3 because I dont like the multiplayer on PS3.   Does that mean it's a bad service?  No.




       

JayWood2010 said:
riderz13371 said:


And how much has both PSN and XBL changed in 5 years?  You have made it very obvious time after time that you are a sony gamer which is your decision but comparing something that you know little about while on top pf that you are bias towards one it is not right for you to continue making these type of threads.

PSN is free?


Irrelevant to how good each service is.  PSN has been worthless to me for the 6 years I've owned PS3 because I dont like the multiplayer on PS3.   Does that mean it's a bad service?  No.

Idk I just find it hard to complain about something that is free :S. 





riderz13371 said:
JayWood2010 said:
riderz13371 said:


And how much has both PSN and XBL changed in 5 years?  You have made it very obvious time after time that you are a sony gamer which is your decision but comparing something that you know little about while on top pf that you are bias towards one it is not right for you to continue making these type of threads.

PSN is free?


Irrelevant to how good each service is.  PSN has been worthless to me for the 6 years I've owned PS3 because I dont like the multiplayer on PS3.   Does that mean it's a bad service?  No.

Idk I just find it hard to complain about something that is free :S. 



I don't because people has been complaining about PSN since it was released.  It has certainly improved over time though just as XBL has imroved since being released.




       

I'm so tired of this lame arguement or OPINION.

Obviously PSN fan boys and Xbox fans boys are going to be just that. I personally am glad that Xbox has done what it has and has molded the online comunity. Sony copys Xbox inovates. (Trophies anyone?)

Yes you have to pay for Xbox Live. Don't like it? Don't pay. Plain and simple It's not going to change and like people have hinted at it's probably going to be the norm.

Quality in a service or product is not what is put into it but what the customer gets out of it.

I pay I'm happy. Would I like it free? Sure, but I find it to be a great value as it is. I don't find paying for it to be a "Problem"

 

Go back to PSN and enjoy that and leave us people who pay alone.



Zombified360 said:

I'm so tired of this lame arguement or OPINION.

Obviously PSN fan boys and Xbox fans boys are going to be just that. I personally am glad that Xbox has done what it has and has molded the online comunity. Sony copys Xbox inovates. (Trophies anyone?)

Yes you have to pay for Xbox Live. Don't like it? Don't pay. Plain and simple It's not going to change and like people have hinted at it's probably going to be the norm.

Quality in a service or product is not what is put into it but what the customer gets out of it.

I pay I'm happy. Would I like it free? Sure, but I find it to be a great value as it is. I don't find paying for it to be a "Problem"

 

Go back to PSN and enjoy that and leave us people who pay alone.

Lol when you said "Leave us people who pay alone" all I thought was this,